Hi,

Happy Birthday 75 Years of Artificial Intelligence. Mostlikely AI
was born around 1950. Here what happened in this decade:

1) "Perceptron":
Rosenblatt's perceptrons were initially simulated on an
IBM 704 computer at Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory in 1957.
Mark I Perceptron machine, the first implementation of
the perceptron algorithm. It was connected to a camera
with 20×20 cadmium sulfide photocells to
make a 400-pixel image.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perzeptron

2) "Voder"
The Bell Telephone Laboratory's Voder (abbreviation of
Voice Operating Demonstrator) was the first attempt to
electronically synthesize human speech by breaking it down
into its acoustic components. The Voder was developed from
research into compression schemes for transmission of voice
on copper wires and for voice encryption. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsdOej_nC1M

3) "Mini-Chess"
Los Alamos chess was the first chess-like game played by a
computer program. This program was written at Los Alamos
Scientific Laboratory by Paul Stein and Mark Wells for the
MANIAC I computer in 1956. The computer was primarily
constructed to perform calculations in support of hydrogen bomb
research at the Laboratory, but it could also play chess! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAVT4rZbcGE

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

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Hi,

Does ChatGPT know the difference between "k" and "kkkkkkkkkk"?

Q: how comes chatgpt understands shortcuts like k and thx?

A: ChatGPT understands shortcuts like "k" (okay) and
"thx" (thanks) because it's trained on a diverse dataset
that includes both formal and informal language, including
slang, abbreviations, and internet shorthand.

Q: kkkkkkkkkk is more russian

A: You're right! The use of "kkkkkkkkkk" as a way to
express laughter is common in some Russian-speaking
communities, similar to "lol" in English. It often
represents laughter in a way that mimics the sound.

Woa!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Happy Birthday 75 Years of Artificial Intelligence. Mostlikely AI
was born around 1950. Here what happened in this decade:

1) "Perceptron":
Rosenblatt's perceptrons were initially simulated on an
IBM 704 computer at Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory in 1957.
Mark I Perceptron machine, the first implementation of
the perceptron algorithm. It was connected to a camera
with 20×20 cadmium sulfide photocells to
make a 400-pixel image.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perzeptron

2) "Voder"
The Bell Telephone Laboratory's Voder (abbreviation of
Voice Operating Demonstrator) was the first attempt to
electronically synthesize human speech by breaking it down
into its acoustic components. The Voder was developed from
research into compression schemes for transmission of voice
on copper wires and for voice encryption. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsdOej_nC1M

3) "Mini-Chess"
Los Alamos chess was the first chess-like game played by a
computer program. This program was written at Los Alamos
Scientific Laboratory by Paul Stein and Mark Wells for the
MANIAC I computer in 1956. The computer was primarily
constructed to perform calculations in support of hydrogen bomb
research at the Laboratory, but it could also play chess! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAVT4rZbcGE

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

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Hi,

So this study colleague with his Flavia, the female
mathematician, has given me something to think about.
Why don't I react exactly the same as him?

Maybe he's a different strain of homosapiens?
And therefore rules differently than me, at least
I never had a fetish for female mathematicians,

a contradiction to determinism?
Ha ha, now I can feed you something again:

What is it Like to be a Bat?
the hard problem of consciousness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZbCctlll4

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

One could now assume that this dualism
prevents artificial intelligence. Because
seeing “pink” leads to feeling “pink”.
In this respect, this is also a very

interesting book, perhaps of historical interest?

How Monkeys See the World
”A fascinating intellectual odyssey and a
superb summary of where science stands.” https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/H/bo3774491.html

My guess ChatGPT proves that dualism does
not prevent artificial intelligence. And
how does ChatGPT manage it?

I suspect the Knowlegde Acquisition
Bottleneck has been cracked. Even though
ChatGPT doesn't have a "Pink" feeling,

it still has the semantic network of "Pink"
and can have a say. It was already heard through
the grapevine in 2018 that something was being

done, but back then it was a rather skeptical vote:

Did We Just Replace the ‘Knowledge Bottleneck’
With a ‘Data Bottleneck’? https://cacm.acm.org/blogcacm/did-we-just-replace-the-knowledge-bottleneck-with-a-data-bottleneck/

The "Too good to be true, in fact." turned into
a "Heureka, it works!" right before our eyes.
The date of birth was:

Generative Pre-trained Transformer 3 (GPT-3)
OpenAI - 28. Mai 2020, Wired reported that
GPT-3 "sends shivers down spines in Silicon Valley." https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_Pre-trained_Transformer_3#Rezeption

Have Fun!

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

So this study colleague with his Flavia, the female
mathematician, has given me something to think about.
Why don't I react exactly the same as him?

Maybe he's a different strain of homosapiens?
And therefore rules differently than me, at least
I never had a fetish for female mathematicians,

a contradiction to determinism?
Ha ha, now I can feed you something again:

What is it Like to be a Bat?
the hard problem of consciousness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZbCctlll4

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

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Hey folks, please take note:

"Rust is the last programming language made for humans
that we'll need. Future languages will be optimized for
machines, where AI handles all the coding" https://twitter.com/nath_simard/status/1816147809608851830

Sounds like utter bullshit to me. Must be a
stupid AI, that cannot do the safety precautions
of Rust. Why would I need rust, if I have an AI?

For this exampe, the AI might generate:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char* argv[]) {
printf("Hello %s\n", argv[0]);
}

Which might indeed generate a segfault. In
case there are zero arguments, argv[0] might
hafe the value NULL. https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/urz/archiv/kursunterlagen/C/kap3/argmain.htm

So why blame the target language, and not the AI?
This is a red herring argument in favor of Rust.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

I have a "silent AI burnout". Means I am
currently doing some other stuff. This very
much unlike modern AI, which is measured

by tokens throughput:

Models: Quality, Performance & Price Analysis https://artificialanalysis.ai/models

I guess my natural intelligence is currently ranking
in the left bottom corner, at least what comes
along social media.

Felix der Glücklich ! Don't forget to massage
your neurons with good old 90's house music:

It Will Make Me Crazy (Red Jelly Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwoUA7UGw8

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

We are getting replaced by AI!

"I've tried every AI Coding agent and IDE,
As someone who's been coding for 20 years,
I think coding as we know it is cooked" https://twitter.com/johnrushx/status/1851504314839416871

Is this some news? I don't think so:

Magic Quadrant for Enterprise Low-Code Application
Platforms Strategic Planning Assumptions
By 2024, three-quarters of large enterprises will be
using at least four low-code development tools for both
IT application development and citizen
development initiatives.
By 2024, low-code application development will be
responsible for more than 65% of application
development activity.
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper
/989250d49fe36bad70df5b272b54a8403e471678

The above report was published in 2019, thats almost
5 years ago. But mostlikely their Strategic Planning
Assumptions for 2024 hasn't materialized yet. Whats the

current Low Code penetration, is it already severe?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

I have a "silent AI burnout". Means I am
currently doing some other stuff. This very
much unlike modern AI, which is measured

by tokens throughput:

Models: Quality, Performance & Price Analysis https://artificialanalysis.ai/models

I guess my natural intelligence is currently ranking
in the left bottom corner, at least what comes
along social media.

Felix der Glücklich ! Don't forget to massage
your neurons with good old 90's house music:

It Will Make Me Crazy (Red Jelly Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwoUA7UGw8

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

Woa! ChatGPT for the Flint Stones: Bloomberg

Our long-term investment in AI is already
available for fixed income securities.
Try it for yourself!
https://twitter.com/TheTerminal/status/1783473601632465352

Did she just say Terminal? LoL

Bye

P.S.: But the display of the extracted logical
query from the natural language phrase is quite
cute. Can ChatGPT do the same?

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

Spain is one of the main recipients of EU recovery funds,
with a total of 163 billion euros ($178 billion) earmarked
for the country, approximately half in grants and the rest
in loans. It has already received 37 billion euros.

Madrid and software.imdea.org is no exception. Probably
the same disaster as the Valencia floods. The money
is just siphoned into some crooks pockets. The biggest
crooks are at the moment ALP & friends,

just publishing a series of failure reports. Every
paper just reports some problems, never solutions.
Most recent cringe example:

BoostRLR: The beauty of Prolog for statistical
relational learning https://www.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/fileadmin/10030600/2024/KI_2004_paper_174.pdf

What the fuck does this mean:

In SWI-Prolog, this can rely on an efficient specialised
implementation of aggregate_all(count,_,_), while we provide
a dedicated low-level XSB implementation in a count module
that we include with our program, courtesy of David S.
Warren (personal communication).

Why is change_arg/3 not common among Prolog systems.
Why do we deal with aggregates like we are still in
stone age. Aggregates are a well known discipline
of database technology.

Why only aggregate_all/2 and not also a memory savy
solutions of aggregate/3. Aggregates are the bread
and butter of statistics.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

Next issue 2:1 scheduled for January 2025 https://www.iospress.com/catalog/journals/neurosymbolic-artificial-intelligence

What is Neuro-Symbolic AI?
https://allegrograph.com/what-is-neuro-symbolic-ai/

Connectionists methods combined with symbolic
methods? BTW: Not something new really, but
nevertheless, the current times might ask for
more interdisciplinary work.

The article by Ron Sun, Dual-process theories,
cognitive architectures, and hybrid neural-
symbolic models, even admits it:

"This idea immediately harkens back to the 1990s
when hybrid models first emerged [..] Besides
being termed neural-symbolic or neurosymbolic models,
they have also been variously known as connectionist
symbolic model, hybrid symbolic neural networks,
or simply hybrid models or systems.

I argued back then and am still arguing today [..]
. In particular, within the human mental architecture,
we need to take into account dual processes (e.g.,
as has been variously termed as implicit versus explicit,
unconscious versus conscious, intuition versus reason,
System 1 versus System 2, and so on, albeit sometimes
with somewhat different connotations). Incidentally,
dual-process (or two-system) theories have become quite
popular lately."

Ok I will take a nap, and let my automatic
processing do the disgesting of what he wrote.

LoL

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Thats a funny quote:

"Once you have a truly massive amount of information
integrated as knowledge, then the human-software
system will be superhuman, in the same sense that
mankind with writing is superhuman compared to
mankind before writing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Lenat#Quotes

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

Lets say I have to chose between pig wrestle with a
grammar nazi stackoverflow user with 100k reputation, or
to interact with ChatGPT that puts a lot of

effort to understand the least cue I give, isn't
shot in to english only, you can also use it with
german, turkish, etc.. what ever.

Who do I use as a programmimg companion, stackoverflow
or ChatGPT. I think ChatGPT is the clear winner,
it doesn't feature the abomination of a virtual

prison like stackoverflow. Or as Cycorp, Inc has put
it already decades ago:

Common Sense Reasoning – From Cyc to Intelligent Assistant
Doug Lenat et al. - August 2006
2 The Case for an Ambient Research Assistant
2.3 Components of a Truly Intelligent Computational Assistant
Natural Language:
An assistant system must be able to remember
questions, statements, etc. from the user, and
what its own response was, in order to understand
the kinds of language ‘shortcuts’ people normally use
in context.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226813714

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Thats a funny quote:

"Once you have a truly massive amount of information
integrated as knowledge, then the human-software
system will be superhuman, in the same sense that
mankind with writing is superhuman compared to
mankind before writing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Lenat#Quotes

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Hi,

Chatgpt is definitely unreliable.

So is stackoverflow, you have no guarantee
to get a realiable answer. Sometimes they
have even biased nonsense, due to the over

representation of certain communities on
stackoverflow. But ChatGPT it is easier to
re-iterate a problem and explore solutions,

you don't get punished for sloppy questions,
or changing topic midflight exploring corner
digging deeper and deeper.

ChatGPT certainly beats stackoverflow.

Also stackoverflow is extremly hysteric about
keeping every comment trail, and has a very
slow garbage collection. I think stackoveflow

automatically deletes a answer with negative
votes after a while. On the other hand ChatGPT
keeps a side bar with all the interactions,

and you can delete an interaction any time
you want to do so. There is no maniac idea to
keep interactions. Stackoverflow possibly

only keeps this interactions to be able to
send people to their virtual prison. Basically
they have become a perverted para-governemental

institution that exercises violence.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Lets say I have to chose between pig wrestle with a
grammar nazi stackoverflow user with 100k reputation, or
to interact with ChatGPT that puts a lot of

effort to understand the least cue I give, isn't
shot in to english only, you can also use it with
german, turkish, etc.. what ever.

Who do I use as a programmimg companion, stackoverflow
or ChatGPT. I think ChatGPT is the clear winner,
it doesn't feature the abomination of a virtual

prison like stackoverflow. Or as Cycorp, Inc has put
it already decades ago:

Common Sense Reasoning – From Cyc to Intelligent Assistant
Doug Lenat et al. - August 2006
2 The Case for an Ambient Research Assistant
2.3 Components of a Truly Intelligent Computational Assistant
Natural Language:
An assistant system must be able to remember
questions, statements, etc. from the user, and
what its own response was, in order to understand
the kinds of language ‘shortcuts’ people normally use
in context.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226813714

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Thats a funny quote:

"Once you have a truly massive amount of information
integrated as knowledge, then the human-software
system will be superhuman, in the same sense that
mankind with writing is superhuman compared to
mankind before writing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Lenat#Quotes

Mild Shock schrieb:

Just reading:

"Deep ecologists reject any mechanical
or computer model of nature, and see
the Earth as a living organism, which
should be treated and understood accordingly"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Sources

Now that we enter the age of AI. What
about an AI Computer model. An AI Earth
Computer model? Any pointers?

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