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  • Re: [SR] Their proper times will necessarily be equal

    From Osman Agelakos@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Sat Apr 13 13:10:07 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Let us understand each other (a moment of optimism).
    The immense, the incomparable, the fantastic relativist theorist
    (that's me) wrote: "If two different observers travel an identical
    path in equal observable times, then their proper times will necessarily
    be equal.The no less immense, incomparable, and fantastic international Python critic refutes.

    you are a fucking fruitcake. Enough reading few words to realize you are uneducated and unskilled like shit, in physics. Making assessments shows
    you are impertinent as well. Rather no difference between you frogs and the english pigs. Same motherfuckers with a large mouth on their face. For
    instance watch a clip on youtube about cars etc, from an english pig, he
    talks hours without showing anything. Fuck you, frogs.

    _๐—๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ป_๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜€_๐—›๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฎ_๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ_๐—ก๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ถ_๐˜๐—ผ_๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ_๐—ฅ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฎ
    Tokyoโ€™s deputy UN envoy has leveraged the infamous twin atomic bombings to blast Moscowโ€™s โ€œnuclear rhetoricโ€ https://www.%72t.com/news/595856-japan-ignore-us-atomic-bombing/

    she doesn't even know who dropped the two nuclear bombs on Japan.

    Check up what the Japanese did in Nanjing 1936, no nice things I can tell.

    And what do they say about the jew in Kiev attacking nuclear plants, and
    the jews in israel threatening to attack iranian nuclear facilities and
    unleash nuclear holocausts? Is japanese bowing and scraping now being
    directed at jews?

    Stockholm Syndrome

    How many did Japan kill in China 1936-45 ? 12 million ? 15 million ?

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  • From Leolin Vilinbahov@21:1/5 to gharnagel on Sat Apr 13 23:41:51 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    gharnagel wrote:

    I set the problem up using excel. For the ships to arrive together at
    the same time when viewed in the earth frame, the second ship must
    accelerate at 10 m/sec^2. The proper time (ship's time) will take
    1.3632 years. The constant-v ship's time is 4.7746 years, so their
    proper times are NOT equal.

    Sort of recall somebody writing the following once upon a time: "As it was
    in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in
    the days before the flood, the people were eating and drinking, marrying
    and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.โ€ฆ"

    Ramon Airport/Eilat hit

    ๐—œ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ป_๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐˜€_๐—œ๐˜€๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฒ๐—น:_๐—Ÿ๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ_๐˜‚๐—ฝ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜€
    Tehran has launched retaliatory strikes following a deadly airstrike that killed two Iranian generals earlier this month https://www.r%74.com/news/595873-israel-iran-live-updates/

    Well overdue. Iran has been incredibily tolerant of Israel's attacks.
    Israel crossed a line destroying an embassy. The UN failed again and didn't step up to condemn it.

    Latest News: Israels Negev air base struck by missiles

    Missiles are hitting targets... The souls of murdered children in Gaza send their blessings

    First waves of missiles are hitting targets inside Zionville.
    Congratulations free thinkers, may the souls thousands of murdered Gazan children find some justice

    So Iran loses top brass in one strike, and Israel just shoots down drone
    waves. Feels like something is missing...

    Erdoghan crypto jew lap dog wuf wuf yeah you will do what attack syria . Jasssous

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  • From Cherles Hoffmann@21:1/5 to gharnagel on Sat Apr 13 23:22:36 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    gharnagel wrote:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    AAnd in the meantime in the real world, forbidden by your bunch of
    idiots "improper" clocks keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious
    clocks always did.

    The "improper" clocks in orbit keep proper time only on earth. In
    orbit, or on the moon or on Mars,
    they're improper. Wozzie always seems to ignore inconvenient truths.

    not true. In emptiest space, no gravity, it's where it's proper time
    occurs. Not on earth.

    Speaking to a group of Jews, Jesus says, "You belong to your father, the
    devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer
    from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the
    father of lies." - John 8:44

    ๐—œ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ป_๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐˜€_๐—œ๐˜€๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฒ๐—น:_๐—Ÿ๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ_๐˜‚๐—ฝ๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜€
    Tehran has launched retaliatory strikes following a deadly airstrike that killed two Iranian generals earlier this month https://www.r%74.com/news/595873-israel-iran-live-updates/

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  • From Zhunda Mochalov@21:1/5 to Athel Cornish-Bowden on Sun Apr 21 11:19:41 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity

    Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2024-04-20 22:31:03 +0000, Richard Hachel said:
    Le 20/04/2024 ร  18:52, Tom Roberts a รฉcrit :
    Note this is essentially the first time I agree with Hachel. I doubt
    that he understands why what he wrote is actually correct, because he
    followed it with a bunch of obfuscatory nonsense.
    [... enormous amount of gibberish ignored.]

    J'ai rien compris.

    Quelle surprise !

    my friend, please no. America is the axis of evil. Everybody knows it. It
    stays in the history books. Evil like shit ๐™ ๐™๐™–๐™ฏ๐™–๐™ง_๐™œ๐™ค๐™ฎ๐™ข motherfuckers. Please
    be careful. https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/

    ๐—›๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ_๐——๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜€_๐—ช๐—ฎ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ_๐—จ๐—ธ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ_๐—™๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ด๐˜€_๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ_๐—–๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜_โ€˜๐—จ๐—ธ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ_๐—™๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐˜โ€™_๐—ช๐—ต๐—ถ๐—น๐—ฒ_๐—ฃ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๏ฟฝ
    ๏ฟฝ๐—ป๐—ด_$61_๐—•๐—ถ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป_๐—”๐—ถ๐—ฑ
    Speaker Mike Johnson delivered the Democrats a gift and sold out the
    American people on Saturday, reneging on his months-long pledge to never
    pass foreign aid without first securing Americaโ€™s border. House Democrats waved Ukraine [โ€ฆ]

    ๐—ง๐—ผ๐—ฝ_๐—ข๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜_๐——๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜€_๐—™๐——๐—”_๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น_๐—–๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฑ_๐—๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐˜€_๐—ข๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ฆ๐—ธ๐˜†๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—–๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—”๏ฟฝ
    ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ด_๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—ฉ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ
    World renowned oncologist and professor Angus Dalgleish, known for his
    cancer and HIV research, has urged the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
    to immediately recall the โ€œfundamentally flawedโ€ Covid mRNA shots. According to Prof. Dalgleish, [โ€ฆ]

    ๐—›๐—•๐—ข_๐˜๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ธ_๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜„_๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜_๐—•๐—ถ๐—น๐—น_๐— ๐—ฎ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜€_๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜_๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐˜๐˜‚๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น_๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ
    ๐—ฎ
    within Hollywood which he says is becoming more rampant every day. In his closing monologue Friday on HBOโ€™s โ€œReal Timeโ€, Maher admitted that [โ€ฆ]

    ๐—”๐—œ_๐—ช๐—ถ๐—น๐—น_๐—›๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฝ_๐—จ๐˜€_๐—š๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜†_๐— ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ณ๐˜†_๐—–๐—ผ๐˜„๐˜€_๐—ง๐—ผ_๐—™๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜_๐—–๐—น๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ_๐—–๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ_๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐˜€_๐—•๐—ถ๐—น๏ฟฝ
    ๏ฟฝ_๐—š๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜€
    Bill gates believes that artificial intelligence (AI) will have a major
    role to play in fighting climate change. He thinks this will include
    allowing scientists to genetically modifying cows to produce less methane
    or to [โ€ฆ]

    ๐— ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜_๐—ช๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐˜€_๐—ข๐—ณ_๐—š๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—น_โ€˜๐—ช๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ช๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜€โ€™_๐—”๐—ณ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐——๐˜‚๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ถ_๐—™๐—น๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐˜€
    Leading meteorologist Johan Jaques has warned of looming โ€˜weather warsโ€™ between nations if โ€˜cloud seedingโ€™ gets out of hand His warning follows after the recent flooding in Dubai sparked concerns about artificially manipulating the rainfall. [โ€ฆ]

    ๐—จ๐—ฆ_๐—›๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ_๐—ฆ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜€_๐—ฅ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฎ,_๐—–๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฎ_&_๐—œ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ป_๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—ก๐—ฒ๐˜„_โ€œ๐—”๐˜…๐—ถ๐˜€_๐—ข๐—ณ_๐—˜๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—นโ€
    US House Speaker Mike Johnson has this week not only praised the countryโ€™s deep state and vowed to put his job on the line to funnel billions to
    Ukraine, but has also called Russia, China, and [โ€ฆ]

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  • From Tai Loong@21:1/5 to Ross Finlayson on Sun Apr 21 16:36:02 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity

    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    Note this is essentially the first time I agree with Hachel. I doubt
    that he understands why what he wrote is actually correct, because he
    followed it with a bunch of obfuscatory nonsense.
    [... enormous amount of gibberish ignored.] Tom Roberts

    Can you help further explain for the rest of us why this isn't
    necessarily the usual interpretation or why it sort of doesn't arrive at
    the same results of some of the usual thought experiments like the
    traveling twins?

    because the observer is apart from those paths through spacetime. Apart
    means distance in time and space. That's what an observer in physics is.
    You can make path coincide, but you have to be very careful, you fucking imbecile.

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  • From Kory Kato@21:1/5 to Python on Sun Apr 21 16:47:32 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity

    Python wrote:

    Le 21/04/2024 ร  15:53, Ross Finlayson a รฉcritย :
    Can you help further explain for the rest of us why this isn't
    necessarily the usual interpretation or why it sort of doesn't arrive
    at the same results of some of the usual thought experiments like the
    traveling twins?

    In the twins scenario, twins does not share the same space-time path.

    no need to. The observer just need to center its position in time and
    space, where both paths would output the same.

    here this guy is telling the truth. And it's not a mistake.

    ๐—•๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป_๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ธ๐˜€_๐—”๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜€_๐˜๐—ผ_๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ฒ_๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ป_๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—บ_๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ_๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜†
    The presidentโ€™s latest blunder comes as a majority of Americans doubt his mental capacity for office https://www.r%74.com/news/596344-biden-freedom-democracy-gaffe/

    He spoke the truth. The devil made him do it.

    Freedom or Democracy the choice given by the Fascist government

    American people have neither Freedom or Democracy what they have is a
    Zionist mafia robbing the country blind.

    He is so true..yankee are not free but slave of zionists

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