• Julios Solution is Different, what is it? (Was: Online Playground for S

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Julio Di Egidio on Fri Jan 10 00:39:58 2025
    Hi,

    The stanford solution to self application
    looks quite different than Julios. Here
    is the stanford solution:

    \x:forall X.X->X.x[forall X.X->X] x https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/lambda/systemf.html

    And here is Julios solution:

    Let `F : forall (X Y : Type), X -> Y`, then we can
    (almost) write `F F`. Simple seems simple, it just
    doesn't end well:

    ```coq
    (** There exists a function
    from any type to any type! *)
    Axiom F : forall (X Y : Type), X -> Y.

    (** Any two types: might be False False if
    that's all there is, an uninhabited type. *)
    Parameters (T U : Type).

    (** Now we can prove False. *)
    Definition absurd : False :=
    F (T -> U) False (F T U).
    ```

    Whats the difference between the two solutions?
    Lets rewrite Julios solution in System F.
    He has a combinator 'F' with this type:

    'F' : forall X.forall Y.(X -> Y)

    His last statement has an expression:

    (F T U) which reduces to a type (T -> U).

    His last statement has a further expression:

    (F (T -> U) False) which reduces to ((T -> U) -> False

    Combining these two expressions, has the type False:

    (F (T -> U) False (F T U)) : False

    Whats the name of this construction?

    Bye

    Julio Di Egidio schrieb:
    On 09/01/2025 17:07, Mild Shock wrote:
    Dear Julio

    I told you a dozen times that the scope of

    You truly are just a spamming piece of shit.

    Indeed now go back to sleep until I post my next one sporadic thing,
    then back to spamming your insanely automatic stupid shit all over the
    place for a couple of weeks, i.e. just as it's need to make me go away
    in disgust.

    You fucking piece of retarded shit, I wish you, chat GTP, and the whole fucking corporate nazi-retarded interest that is paying the job an incorporated ass cancer.

    *Plonk*

    -Julio


    my thread is simple types. Why don't you
    open a separate thread for your fetish

    System F and/or Coq. I really don't care
    about System F. You can play online with
    System F here:

    https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/lambda/systemf.html

    Get some Brains!


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