• I'm Satoshi, We are all Satoshi

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 8 03:56:46 2024
    Hi,

    USA with the Trump/Elon stunt right now
    going through an awakening about distributed
    computing and computer cryptography:

    The Legendary Treasure of Satoshi Nakamoto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIWViimqRMU

    BTW: It is not true that like gold and real
    estate, Bitcoin is a successful store of value
    because it’s difficult to increase its supply.

    Don't forget to buy other coins, Bitcoin has
    limited supply, it will soon be a historical
    footnote. Everybody knows, there are better

    coins and coins are swiftly replacable.
    I wonder when and how fast this decline of BTC
    will happen. Will be funny to watch!

    Bye

    Meanwhile enjoying some classics:

    " That is a question that I am no more able to
    answer than yourself. There seems, however, only
    one plausible way of accounting for them - and
    yet it is dreadful to believe in such atrocity
    as my suggestion would imply. It is clear that
    Kidd—if Kidd indeed secreted this treasure, which
    I doubt not—it is clear that he must have had
    assistance in the labor. But this labor concluded,
    he may have thought it expedient to remove all
    participants in his secret. Perhaps a couple of
    blows with a mattock were sufficient, while his
    coadjutors were busy in the pit ; perhaps it required
    a dozen — who shall tell ? "
    The Golden Bug - Edgar Allan Poe https://archive.org/details/goldbug00poee_1/page/50/mode/2up

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to olcott on Tue Oct 8 11:45:40 2024
    Croesus is credited with issuing the first
    true gold coins with a standardised purity
    for general circulation, the Croeseid (following
    on from his father Alyattes who invented
    minting with electrum coins). Indeed, the
    invention of coinage had passed into Greek
    society through Hermodike II. Hermodike II,
    the daughter of an Agamemnon of Cyme, claimed
    descent from the original Agamemnon who conquered Troy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croesus

    The gold standard was abandoned due to its
    propensity for volatility, as well as the
    constraints it imposed on governments: by
    retaining a fixed exchange rate, governments
    were hamstrung in engaging in expansionary
    policies to, for example, reduce unemployment
    during economic recessions.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard

    olcott schrieb:
    Warren Buffet said it is rat poison squared.
    More aptly current digital currency is simply a Ponzi scheme.
    Backed by gold or even dollars could fix this.


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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Tue Oct 8 11:58:31 2024
    So what do we have now:

    Fiat money is a type of currency that is
    not backed by a precious metal, such as gold
    or silver, or backed by any other tangible
    asset or commodity.

    In as far crypto currency are also fiat.

    Fiat currency is typically designated by the
    issuing government to be legal tender, and
    is authorized by government regulation. Since
    the end of the Bretton Woods system in 1971,
    the major currencies in the world are fiat money.

    Ok the thing with government is missing for crypto.

    What about gold, is there a single gold government?

    Gold's price is influenced by supply/demand
    dynamics, geopolitical conditions, and monetary
    policy. Central banks have little to do with
    geopolitical conditions, but banks like the
    U.S. Federal Reserve play a vital role in
    managing supply/demand dynamics and monetary policy.

    Mild Shock schrieb:

    Croesus is credited with issuing the first
    true gold coins with a standardised purity
    for general circulation, the Croeseid (following
    on from his father Alyattes who invented
    minting with electrum coins). Indeed, the
    invention of coinage had passed into Greek
    society through Hermodike II. Hermodike II,
    the daughter of an Agamemnon of Cyme, claimed
    descent from the original Agamemnon who conquered Troy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croesus

    The gold standard was abandoned due to its
    propensity for volatility, as well as the
    constraints it imposed on governments: by
    retaining a fixed exchange rate, governments
    were hamstrung in engaging in expansionary
    policies to, for example, reduce unemployment
    during economic recessions.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard

    olcott schrieb:
    Warren Buffet said it is rat poison squared.
    More aptly current digital currency is simply a Ponzi scheme.
    Backed by gold or even dollars could fix this.



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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Tue Oct 8 12:07:58 2024
    You can privately buy gold instead of coins.

    Lets say you would have bought 1 kg gold
    on 02.01.2024. How much would it have cost
    in USD, and how much would it be worth now

    in USD. Here are the numbers:

    02.01.2024, USD 66.473,30
    08.10.2024, USD 84.908,84

    ca. 27% price increase! Woa!

    Source:

    https://www.bullionbypost.eu/

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    So what do we have now:

    Fiat money is a type of currency that is
    not backed by a precious metal, such as gold
    or silver, or backed by any other tangible
    asset or commodity.

    In as far crypto currency are also fiat.

    Fiat currency is typically designated by the
    issuing government to be legal tender, and
    is authorized by government regulation. Since
    the end of the Bretton Woods system in 1971,
    the major currencies in the world are fiat money.

    Ok the thing with government is missing for crypto.

    What about gold, is there a single gold government?

    Gold's price is influenced by supply/demand
    dynamics, geopolitical conditions, and monetary
    policy. Central banks have little to do with
    geopolitical conditions, but banks like the
    U.S. Federal Reserve play a vital role in
    managing supply/demand dynamics and monetary policy.

    Mild Shock schrieb:

    Croesus is credited with issuing the first
    true gold coins with a standardised purity
    for general circulation, the Croeseid (following
    on from his father Alyattes who invented
    minting with electrum coins). Indeed, the
    invention of coinage had passed into Greek
    society through Hermodike II. Hermodike II,
    the daughter of an Agamemnon of Cyme, claimed
    descent from the original Agamemnon who conquered Troy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croesus

    The gold standard was abandoned due to its
    propensity for volatility, as well as the
    constraints it imposed on governments: by
    retaining a fixed exchange rate, governments
    were hamstrung in engaging in expansionary
    policies to, for example, reduce unemployment
    during economic recessions.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard

    olcott schrieb:
    Warren Buffet said it is rat poison squared.
    More aptly current digital currency is simply a Ponzi scheme.
    Backed by gold or even dollars could fix this.




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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to olcott on Tue Oct 8 17:03:05 2024
    On 2024-10-08 03:50:43 +0000, olcott said:

    On 10/7/2024 8:56 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
    Hi,

    USA with the Trump/Elon stunt right now
    going through an awakening about distributed
    computing and computer cryptography:

    The Legendary Treasure of Satoshi Nakamoto
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIWViimqRMU

    BTW: It is not true that like gold and real
    estate, Bitcoin is a successful store of value
    because it’s difficult to increase its supply.

    Don't forget to buy other coins, Bitcoin has
    limited supply, it will soon be a historical
    footnote. Everybody knows, there are better

    coins and coins are swiftly replacable.
    I wonder when and how fast this decline of BTC
    will happen. Will be funny to watch!

    Bye

    Meanwhile enjoying some classics:

    " That is a question that I am no more able to
    answer than yourself. There seems, however, only
    one plausible way of accounting for them - and
    yet it is dreadful to believe in such atrocity
    as my suggestion would imply. It is clear that
    Kidd—if Kidd indeed secreted this treasure, which
    I doubt not—it is clear that he must have had
    assistance in the labor. But this labor concluded,
    he may have thought it expedient to remove all
    participants in his secret. Perhaps a couple of
    blows with a mattock were sufficient, while his
    coadjutors were busy in the pit ; perhaps it required
    a dozen — who shall tell ? "
    The Golden Bug - Edgar Allan Poe
    https://archive.org/details/goldbug00poee_1/page/50/mode/2up

    Warren Buffet said it is rat poison squared.
    More aptly current digital currency is simply a Ponzi scheme.
    Backed by gold or even dollars could fix this.

    A metal coin, even if nobody accepts it as money, can be serve
    a usful purpose as a piece of metal. What useful purpose can
    Bicoin serve when it is no longer accepted as money?

    --
    Mikko

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Thu Oct 10 00:00:37 2024
    Hi,

    Will be funny to watch!

    Yes, it will be funny to watch how
    people like Michael Saylor will
    pull their head out of the noose

    without getting poor again:

    Michael Saylor - We Call Them Poor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5if2hthPCs

    But the approach is probably very
    simple. Continouse portfolio management
    and diversification.

    Take the NASDAQ index, which is now
    50 years old. Before 2010 the following
    companies were in the NASDAQ index:
    - Sun Microsystems
    - Yahoo!
    - Dell
    - Kodak

    Now they arent anymore in the NASDAQ index.
    So that Bitcoin disappears is a possible
    future scenario without doubt if we

    look at time scales of like 20-40 years.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    USA with the Trump/Elon stunt right now
    going through an awakening about distributed
    computing and computer cryptography:

    The Legendary Treasure of Satoshi Nakamoto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIWViimqRMU

    BTW: It is not true that like gold and real
    estate, Bitcoin is a successful store of value
    because it’s difficult to increase its supply.

    Don't forget to buy other coins, Bitcoin has
    limited supply, it will soon be a historical
    footnote. Everybody knows, there are better

    coins and coins are swiftly replacable.
    I wonder when and how fast this decline of BTC
    will happen. Will be funny to watch!

    Bye

    Meanwhile enjoying some classics:

    " That is a question that I am no more able to
    answer than yourself. There seems, however, only
    one plausible way of accounting for them - and
    yet it is dreadful to believe in such atrocity
    as my suggestion would imply. It is clear that
    Kidd—if Kidd indeed secreted this treasure, which
    I doubt not—it is clear that he must have had
    assistance in the labor. But this labor concluded,
    he may have thought it expedient to remove all
    participants in his secret. Perhaps a couple of
    blows with a mattock were sufficient, while his
    coadjutors were busy in the pit ; perhaps it required
    a dozen — who shall tell ? "
    The Golden Bug - Edgar Allan Poe https://archive.org/details/goldbug00poee_1/page/50/mode/2up

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