• Ask Marilyn , the female WM?

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 2 00:29:52 2024
    Holy shit, what would Cantor say?

    Q: Dear Marilyn:
    Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
    an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?

    A: Dear Reader:
    I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
    only a line and a circle, no matter how
    large they grow, the circle would have the
    greater number of points. (For example, a
    one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
    out" would be over three miles long.) If
    the circle were "filled in" as well, it
    would have an even greater number of points
    an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
    however, would have even more because it
    could be said to consist of an infinite
    number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
    However bad it would be to mow along an
    infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
    mow the entire lawn it bordered.

    https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Wed Oct 2 01:12:27 2024
    Marilyn vos Savant, gained fame for holding the Guinness
    World Record for the highest recorded IQ.

    She answered:

    Q: Dear Marilyn:
    What will be the best and the worst aspects of computers
    that will do our thinking for us someday.

    A: Dear Reader:
    They have no emotions, and they have no emotions.

    https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/192/mode/2up

    I recently read 12 Bytes, summarized by ChatGPT:

    "What was once taboo—anthropomorphic AI,
    emotional robots, and even the concept of girlfriend
    robots—is now entering mainstream discussions,
    thanks to advancements in AI, robotics, and
    societal shifts. While these technologies raise
    serious ethical and psychological questions, they also
    offer potential solutions to issues like loneliness,
    emotional fulfillment, and even sexual companionship.

    Jeanette Winterson’s prediction of girlfriend robots in
    "12 Bytes" is a reflection of where technology seems
    to be headed, but it’s also a call for us to consider
    the deeper implications of integrating robots into our
    emotional and social lives. Emotion simulation might
    be the key to their acceptance, but we’ll need to
    navigate the balance between the benefits and the
    ethical challenges that come with this new frontier."

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Holy shit, what would Cantor say?

    Q: Dear Marilyn:
    Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
    an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?

    A: Dear Reader:
    I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
    only a line and a circle, no matter how
    large they grow, the circle would have the
    greater number of points. (For example, a
    one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
    out" would be over three miles long.) If
    the circle were "filled in" as well, it
    would have an even greater number of points
    an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
    however, would have even more because it
    could be said to consist of an infinite
    number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
    However bad it would be to mow along an
    infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
    mow the entire lawn it bordered.

    https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Wed Oct 2 17:04:37 2024
    Hi,

    And what about that here:

    “Man will never reach the moon regardless
    of all future scientific advances.”
    ― Dr. Lee Forest

    We are already knocking on the door of emotional
    AI, given that many things mentioned in this 2 years
    old video, are now artificial via Generative AI.

    What is 'dopamine fasting' and
    is it good for you? – BBC REEL
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E8CPBzP1lI

    The video explains also some pros and cons:

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Marilyn vos Savant, gained fame for holding the Guinness
    World Record for the highest recorded IQ.

    She answered:

    Q: Dear Marilyn:
    What will be the best and the worst aspects of computers
    that will do our thinking for us someday.

    A: Dear Reader:
    They have no emotions, and they have no emotions.

    https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/192/mode/2up

    I recently read 12 Bytes, summarized by ChatGPT:

    "What was once taboo—anthropomorphic AI,
    emotional robots, and even the concept of girlfriend
    robots—is now entering mainstream discussions,
    thanks to advancements in AI, robotics, and
    societal shifts. While these technologies raise
    serious ethical and psychological questions, they also
    offer potential solutions to issues like loneliness,
    emotional fulfillment, and even sexual companionship.

    Jeanette Winterson’s prediction of girlfriend robots in
    "12 Bytes" is a reflection of where technology seems
    to be headed, but it’s also a call for us to consider
    the deeper implications of integrating robots into our
    emotional and social lives. Emotion simulation might
    be the key to their acceptance, but we’ll need to
    navigate the balance between the benefits and the
    ethical challenges that come with this new frontier."

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Holy shit, what would Cantor say?

    Q: Dear Marilyn:
    Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
    an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?

    A: Dear Reader:
    I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
    only a line and a circle, no matter how
    large they grow, the circle would have the
    greater number of points. (For example, a
    one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
    out" would be over three miles long.) If
    the circle were "filled in" as well, it
    would have an even greater number of points
    an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
    however, would have even more because it
    could be said to consist of an infinite
    number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
    However bad it would be to mow along an
    infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
    mow the entire lawn it bordered.

    https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up


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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Wed Oct 2 20:21:32 2024
    WM the male Marilyn, neiter WM nor Marilyn
    have any substance. At least ChatGPT disagrees:

    - Elliptic curves are not "hyperbolic," and
    Wiles’ proof does not make improper use of
    hyperbolic geometry. If vos Savant mentioned
    hyperbolic geometry in her critique, it
    likely reflects a misunderstanding of the
    mathematical concepts involved.

    - The Grothendieck axiom in question (e.g.,
    Grothendieck universes) is a large cardinal-like
    assumption, but Wiles' proof did not require
    such axioms for its validity.

    Who is right?

    See also:
    https://chatgpt.com/share/66fd8d7c-3c4c-8013-8afe-b5bfdff7b8ee

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    And what about that here:

    “Man will never reach the moon regardless
    of all future scientific advances.”
    ― Dr. Lee Forest

    We are already knocking on the door of emotional
    AI, given that many things mentioned in this 2 years
    old video, are now artificial via Generative AI.

    What is 'dopamine fasting' and
    is it good for you? – BBC REEL
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E8CPBzP1lI

    The video explains also some pros and cons:

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Marilyn vos Savant, gained fame for holding the Guinness
    World Record for the highest recorded IQ.

    She answered:

    Q: Dear Marilyn:
    What will be the best and the worst aspects of computers
    that will do our thinking for us someday.

    A: Dear Reader:
    They have no emotions, and they have no emotions.

    https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/192/mode/2up

    I recently read 12 Bytes, summarized by ChatGPT:

    "What was once taboo—anthropomorphic AI,
    emotional robots, and even the concept of girlfriend
    robots—is now entering mainstream discussions,
    thanks to advancements in AI, robotics, and
    societal shifts. While these technologies raise
    serious ethical and psychological questions, they also
    offer potential solutions to issues like loneliness,
    emotional fulfillment, and even sexual companionship.

    Jeanette Winterson’s prediction of girlfriend robots in
    "12 Bytes" is a reflection of where technology seems
    to be headed, but it’s also a call for us to consider
    the deeper implications of integrating robots into our
    emotional and social lives. Emotion simulation might
    be the key to their acceptance, but we’ll need to
    navigate the balance between the benefits and the
    ethical challenges that come with this new frontier."

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Holy shit, what would Cantor say?

    Q: Dear Marilyn:
    Which is the biggest, an infinite line,
    an infinite circle, or an infinite plane?

    A: Dear Reader:
    I'd say an infinite plane. When comparing
    only a line and a circle, no matter how
    large they grow, the circle would have the
    greater number of points. (For example, a
    one-mile-wide circular line "straightened
    out" would be over three miles long.) If
    the circle were "filled in" as well, it
    would have an even greater number of points
    an its surface. An unbounded plane surface,
    however, would have even more because it
    could be said to consist of an infinite
    number of infinite lines, laid side by side.
    However bad it would be to mow along an
    infinite sidewalk, it would be worse to
    mow the entire lawn it bordered.

    https://archive.org/details/paradesaskmarily00mari/page/184/mode/2up



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