• Some Error in Dag Prawitz 1970 Paper

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 12 18:47:42 2024
    It seems this paper is flawed:

    SOME RESULTS FOR INTUITIONISTIC LOGIC WITH SECOND
    ORDER QUANTIFICATION RULES
    Dag Prawitz - 1970 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049237X08707572

    The cut elimination might be valid.
    But I guess he is jumping to conclusions
    when he thinks that a proof:

    |- ~ ∀x ~ A(x)

    Has the existence property. The flaw
    is easy to spot. He thinks that a proof,
    with the non-invertible left hand ∀:

    ∀x B(x) |- C

    Implies nevertheless a certain form of
    invertibility in that there are terms
    t1, .., tn such that we have a proof:

    B(t1), ..., B(tn) |- C

    Unless B is restricted to some special
    set of formulas, I suspect that the above
    is fallacious.

    Any counter example that shows the fallacy?

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Wed Jun 12 19:06:18 2024
    The main Problem is we cannot fully identify
    the existential quantifier with the negation
    of the universal quantifier with a negated argument

    in minimal and intuitionistic logic. Here some
    computer experimentation. This direction
    works fine, namely we have even in minimal logic:

    1. |__∃x P(x) A
    2. | |__∀x ¬P(x) A
    3. | | P(a) E∃ 1
    4. | | ¬P(a) E∀ 2
    5. | | ⊥ E¬ 4, 3
    6. | ¬ ∀x ¬P(x) I¬ 2, 5
    7. ∃x P(x) → ¬ ∀x ¬P(x) I→ 1, 6

    But the other direction doesn't work, requires
    Reductio Ad Absurdum (RAA) indicated by **:

    1. |__¬ ∀x ¬P(x) A
    2. | |__¬ ∃x P(x) A
    3. | | |__P(a) A
    4. | | | ∃x P(x) I∃ 3
    5. | | | ⊥ E¬ 2, 4
    6. | | ¬P(a) I¬ 3, 5
    7. | | ∀x ¬P(x) I∀ 6
    8. | | ⊥ E¬ 1, 7
    9. | ∃x P(x) ** RAA 2, 8
    10. ¬ ∀x ¬P(x) → ∃x P(x) I→ 1, 9

    The maximum we can do is a kind of Markov rule,
    not minimal logic valid. But intuitionstic logic
    valid, since it uses Ex Falso Quodlibet (EFQ)

    indicated by *:

    1. |__(∃x P(x) ∨ ∀x ¬P(x)) ∧ ¬ ∀x ¬P(x) A
    2. | ∃x P(x) ∨ ∀x ¬P(x) E∧₁ 1
    3. | ¬ ∀x ¬P(x) E∧₂ 1
    4. | |__∀x ¬P(x) A
    5. | | |__P(a) A
    6. | | | ¬P(a) E∀ 4
    7. | | | ⊥ E¬ 6, 5
    8. | | ¬P(a) I¬ 5, 7
    9. | | ∀x ¬P(x) I∀ 8
    10. | | ⊥ E¬ 3, 9
    11. | | ∃x P(x) * EFQ 10
    12. | ∀x ¬P(x) → ∃x P(x) I→ 4, 11
    13. | |__∃x P(x) A
    14. | | P(b) E∃ 13
    15. | | ∃x P(x) I∃ 14
    16. | ∃x P(x) → ∃x P(x) I→ 13, 15 17. | ∃x P(x) ∨ ∀x ¬P(x) → ∃x P(x) E∨ 16, 12
    18. | ∃x P(x) E→ 17, 2
    19. (∃x P(x) ∨ ∀x ¬P(x)) ∧ ¬ ∀x ¬P(x) → ∃x P(x) I→ 1, 18

    But when one proves ~ ∀x ~ A(x), this doesn't
    mean one also assumes ∃x A(x) | ∀x ~A(x).

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    It seems this paper is flawed:

    SOME RESULTS FOR INTUITIONISTIC LOGIC WITH SECOND
    ORDER QUANTIFICATION RULES
    Dag Prawitz - 1970 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049237X08707572

    The cut elimination might be valid.
    But I guess he is jumping to conclusions
    when he thinks that a proof:

    |- ~ ∀x ~ A(x)

    Has the existence property. The flaw
    is easy to spot. He thinks that a proof,
    with the non-invertible left hand ∀:

    ∀x B(x) |- C

    Implies nevertheless a certain form of
    invertibility in that there are terms
    t1, .., tn such that we have a proof:

    B(t1), ..., B(tn) |- C

    Unless B is restricted to some special
    set of formulas, I suspect that the above
    is fallacious.

    Any counter example that shows the fallacy?


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