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  • International Women's Day (8 March)

    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 8 13:59:32 2025
    It shows up on my master list as a national holiday only in Russia,
    Belarus and Ukraine. (Russia has a Mondayized-Saturday "IWD Holiday" on
    the 10th, which is also the day IWD is celebrated in Ukraine.)

    Curious.

    But this makes it all clear:

    "Spurred by the universal female suffrage movement, International
    Women's Day originated from labor movements in Europe and North America
    during the early 20th century, with the modern holiday, March 8, being
    declared by Vladimir Lenin."

    (Gasp!)

    "The earliest version reported was a "Woman's Day" organized by the
    Socialist Party of America in New York City on February 28, 1909. This
    inspired German delegates at the 1910 International Socialist Women's Conference in Copenhagen to propose "a special Women's Day" be organized annually, albeit with no set date; the following year saw the first demonstrations and commemorations of International Women's Day across
    Europe. Vladimir Lenin declared March 8 as International Women's Day in
    1922 to honour the women's role in 1917 Russian Revolution; it was
    subsequently celebrated on that date by the socialist movement and
    communist countries."

    "International Women's Day remained predominantly a communist holiday
    until circa 1967 when it was taken up by second-wave
    feminists....International Women's Day had been largely forgotten in the
    United States by the late 1960s, before an activist called Laura X
    organized a march in Berkeley, California, on International Women's Day
    in 1969....The holiday became a mainstream global holiday following its promotion by the United Nations in 1977."

    Holy crap! How come Trump hasn't banned it yet?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day

    /Ob sci.lang: The Wikipedia article features a dynamic poster for IWD
    in Germany, 1914. "This poster was banned in the German Empire."
    One line on the poster reads: "Heraus mit dem Frauenwahlrecht."
    I find it hard not to translate that as "Out with women's right to
    vote"; but in English that would give the opposite of what I'm sure was
    the intended meaning. So it's really something like "Come out and show
    your support for....". Am I right?

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Sat Mar 8 09:27:32 2025
    On 2025-03-08, Ross Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

    It shows up on my master list as a national holiday only in Russia,
    Belarus and Ukraine.

    In Germany, it's a regional holiday in... *checks schulferien.org*...
    Berlin and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day

    /Ob sci.lang: The Wikipedia article features a dynamic poster for IWD
    in Germany, 1914. "This poster was banned in the German Empire."
    One line on the poster reads: "Heraus mit dem Frauenwahlrecht."
    I find it hard not to translate that as "Out with women's right to
    vote"; but in English that would give the opposite of what I'm sure was
    the intended meaning. So it's really something like "Come out and show
    your support for....". Am I right?

    That would be my guess as well. It's an odd phrasing from today's
    perspective.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [email protected]

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  • From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to Christian Weisgerber on Sun Mar 9 22:53:15 2025
    On 8/03/2025 10:27 p.m., Christian Weisgerber wrote:
    On 2025-03-08, Ross Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

    It shows up on my master list as a national holiday only in Russia,
    Belarus and Ukraine.

    In Germany, it's a regional holiday in... *checks schulferien.org*...
    Berlin and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Day

    /Ob sci.lang: The Wikipedia article features a dynamic poster for IWD
    in Germany, 1914. "This poster was banned in the German Empire."
    One line on the poster reads: "Heraus mit dem Frauenwahlrecht."
    I find it hard not to translate that as "Out with women's right to
    vote"; but in English that would give the opposite of what I'm sure was
    the intended meaning. So it's really something like "Come out and show
    your support for....". Am I right?

    That would be my guess as well. It's an odd phrasing from today's perspective.


    Thanks. This has brought to my mind an old expression, "'Raus mit uns!",
    that I heard from someone long ago, before I actually knew any German.
    My vague recollection is that it was something you could shout to get
    people out of their beds in the morning. Is it a conventional expression?

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Sun Mar 9 19:10:39 2025
    On 2025-03-09, Ross Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thanks. This has brought to my mind an old expression, "'Raus mit uns!",
    that I heard from someone long ago, before I actually knew any German.
    My vague recollection is that it was something you could shout to get
    people out of their beds in the morning.

    Yes, that works in context.

    Is it a conventional expression?

    Not to me.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [email protected]

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  • From Tilde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 10 22:47:02 2025
    https://english.elpais.com/international/women-leaders-of-latin-america/2025-03-10/gabriela-salas-the-indigenous-scientist-who-brought-nahuatl-to-google-it-is-important-that-girls-study-to-be-freer.html

    Gabriela Salas is a 28-year-old Mexican
    scientist, originally from Puerto del
    Caballo, Hidalgo, a small locality of some
    20 inhabitants. Her story is not only an
    example of dedication and effort, it is
    also proof of the importance of the right
    to education for women and their need to
    train in scientific careers. “It is
    important that girls study so that they
    continue learning, continue fighting,
    and become freer,” she says from Madrid,
    where she is now studying a master’s in
    data science at the Polytechnic
    University. Two years ago, Salas was
    recognized nationally for incorporating
    the Nahuatl language, spoken by
    1.6 million people in Mexico, into
    Google Translate.

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