• "revenue" comes from the Latin "revenire"

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 19:03:11 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin

    this etym. doesn't make sense in that...

    Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
    prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 19:59:01 2024
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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 20:33:10 2024
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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sun Dec 22 20:33:51 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin

    On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 19:59:01 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    HenHanna wrote:
    this etym.  doesn't make sense in that...

      Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
    prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

    The "re" doesn't apply.
    Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
    If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.

    Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern
    economics.

    Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
    expenditure. They depend on other factors.

    Ed


    ___________

    i'm not making much of a claim... just an observation that...

    in Jp and Chinese counterparts, there's no Element of coming BACK

    (just Income)

    Cantonese, Mandarin: 收入 (zh) (shōurù)

    Japanese: 収入 (ja) (しゅうにゅう, shūnyū), 収益 (ja) (しゅうえき, shūeki)

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 22 21:48:57 2024
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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Mon Dec 23 12:39:29 2024
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    On 2024-12-23 11:19:13 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

    On 23/12/24 20:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

    I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
    clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
    like an idiot, he is an idiot.

    Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.

    Ah, thanks, I didn't notice that. In "I think you're newish here,"
    "here" meant alt.usage.english

    --
    Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
    in England until 1987.

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  • From Peter Moylan@21:1/5 to Athel Cornish-Bowden on Mon Dec 23 22:19:13 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin

    On 23/12/24 20:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

    I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
    clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
    like an idiot, he is an idiot.

    Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response
    didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.

    --
    Peter Moylan [email protected] http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW

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  • From guido wugi@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 25 00:02:23 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin

    Op 22/12/2024 om 20:03 schreef HenHanna:
    this etym.  doesn't make sense in that...

      Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

    The image is that of money *coming [in] back*, after it has *gone out*
    (as expenditure/investment). Not necessarily with any direct/causal
    relation between both "flows", apart from a chronological one.

    --
    guido wugi

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