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  • Exegesis: Ges could have come from [Gerere, Ges-] ---- Diegetic: Ge(t)

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 20 20:14:56 2024
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    From the root [Gerere, Ges-] came Gesture, Digest, Suggest, ...



    Exegesis -- the Ges part looks like it could have come from [Gerere,
    Ges-]

    Diegetic -- the Ge(t) part looks like (((ditto)))



    ------- Is there any linguistic (etymological) basis to the above?

    (i guess not)... But it's good (at least) as a Mnemonic!!!

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 20 22:12:59 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english, alt.language.latin

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  • From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Thu Nov 21 11:40:02 2024
    On 21/11/2024 9:14 a.m., HenHanna wrote:
    From the root [Gerere, Ges-] came Gesture, Digest, Suggest, ...



    Exegesis -- the Ges part looks like it could have come from [Gerere,
    Ges-]

    Diegetic -- the Ge(t) part looks like (((ditto)))



    ------- Is there any linguistic (etymological) basis to the above?

          (i guess not)... But it's good (at least) as a Mnemonic!!!

    No, they're both Greek, not Latin. But they do have the same root.

    exegesis (n), exegetic (adj) explanation, interpretation (of a text)

    Greek ἐξ-ήγησις from ἐξ-ηγέομαι 'interpret' ("lead out")

    diegesis (n), diegetic (adj) narration, telling a story

    Greek διήγησις from δι-ηγέομαι 'narrate, describe' ("lead through")

    The verb in both cases is the one in ἡγεμών 'leader', that gives us "hegemony".

    "Exegesis" is a much older word in English, from 1600.
    "Diegesis" seems to appear only in the mid-20th century, from French
    film theory.

    "Exe

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