i've just seen a [Vader Jakob] version.
"Vader" is a Dutch word that means "father." In popular culture, it is
often associated with the character Darth Vader from the "Star Wars" franchise, where the name has a significant narrative connection,
especially in the context of his relationship with Luke Skywalker.
--------------- what does Darth mean?
On 09/11/24 09:13, wugi wrote:
Op 8/11/2024 om 19:06 schreef wugi:
Op 8/11/2024 om 18:45 schreef Ed Cryer:
Ever hear the song "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
Well, it was ripped from a French song;
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Ne sait quand reviendra.
Same for the first one:
Frère Jaques (2x)
Dormez-vous? (2x)
Sonnent les matines (2x)
Dutch:
Broeder Jacob (2x)
Slaapt gij nog? (2x)
Hoor de klokken luiden (2x)
Bimbambom (2x)
Others?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A8re_Jacques
See also
http://dragon.sleepdeprived.ca/songbook/songs2/s2_26.htm
which has it in ten different languages.
On 11/8/2024 1:02 PM, HenHanna wrote:
Are you sleeping, are you sleeping. Brother John, brother John.
Morning bells are ringing,. Morning bells are ringing...........
____________________
Americans perceive it as a quintessentially British song
I would be fascinated to what Americans you are talking about. My
experience as an American would say that you are wide of the mark. Most American kids first heard / learned the sang as a round, first sang in
French a few times then in English often in unison as the grand finale.
I know in many parts of the world, the average citizen speaks 4.23
languages at age 12 while the average American never speaks more than
0.69 languages at any age. Despite that sad fact, most American children learn to sing this song at school or camp at an early age and in French.
In fact, it's this song which is often called out to convince Americans
that there are languages other than English.
But I assure you I, in all the years I have been around in America, have never seen or heard any native aver the Friar to be English.
I always assumed Brother John was Beatle John. But John Eastman makes
sense!
Are you sleeping, are you sleeping. Brother John, brother John.
Morning bells are ringing,. Morning bells are ringing...........
____________________
Americans perceive it as a quintessentially British song
For me (and thousands of others) this was reinforced by
Paul McCartney singing....
(Someone's Ringing the Bell...)
Sister Suzie,
Brother John <---------
Martin Luther, Phil and Don
Brother Michael, auntie Gin
Open the door and let 'em in, yeah
______________________________________
Paul's aunt ("Auntie Gin")
Paul's brother ("Brother Michael")
The Everly Brothers ("Phil and Don")
Keith Moon ("Uncle Ernie")
Either John Entwistle or John Lennon ("Brother John")
"Sister Suzie" was Linda, who once recorded a song under the name "Suzie
And The Red Stripes."
______________________________
I always assumed Brother John was Beatle John. But John Eastman makes >>>> sense!
I read a quote somewhere that John Eastman was one of only two men Paul
would listen to, the other being George Martin.
Sister Suzie,
Brother John <---------
Martin Luther, Phil and Don
Brother Michael, auntie Gin
Open the door and let 'em in, yeah
Sister Suzie,
Brother John
Op 8/11/2024 om 18:45 schreef Ed Cryer:
Ever hear the song "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
Well, it was ripped from a French song;
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Ne sait quand reviendra.
Same for the first one:
Frère Jaques (2x)
Dormez-vous? (2x)
Sonnent les matines (2x)
Dutch:
Broeder Jacob (2x)
Slaapt gij nog? (2x)
Hoor de klokken luiden (2x)
Bimbambom (2x)
Others?
HenHanna wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 20:02:19 +0000, HenHanna wrote:
Are you sleeping, are you sleeping. Brother John, brother John.
Morning bells are ringing,. Morning bells are ringing...........
____________________
Americans perceive it as a quintessentially British song
For me (and thousands of others) this was reinforced by
Paul McCartney singing....
(Someone's Ringing the Bell...)
Sister Suzie,
Brother John <---------
Martin Luther, Phil and Don
Brother Michael, auntie Gin
Open the door and let 'em in, yeah
______________________________________
Paul's aunt ("Auntie Gin")
Paul's brother ("Brother Michael")
The Everly Brothers ("Phil and Don")
Keith Moon ("Uncle Ernie")
Either John Entwistle or John Lennon ("Brother John")
"Sister Suzie" was Linda, who once recorded a song under the name "Suzie >>> And The Red Stripes."
______________________________
I always assumed Brother John was Beatle John. But John Eastman
makes
sense!
I read a quote somewhere that John Eastman was one of only two men Paul
would listen to, the other being George Martin.
Sister Suzie,
Brother John <---------
Martin Luther, Phil and Don
Brother Michael, auntie Gin
Open the door and let 'em in, yeah
Sister Suzie,
Brother John
seemed like characters from Nursery Rhymes.
Miss Muffet's name is Suzy or Susie Muffett.
or that Elinor Rigby became a Nun
(and became known as Sister Suzy)
Martin Luther, and
Uncle Arnie... i misheard in my head
as Albert (as in ...holes to fill the Albert Hall)
So, i saw Martin Luther and Albert Einstein (and others)
in a Sgt.Pepper like display
… And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall
_________________________
The song starts with the sound of a V. & E. Friedland Maestro
Westminster Chime doorbell, an electro-mechanical doorbell with a unique
"vibrato resonating" feature, before the rhythm begins.[5][6] The lyric
namechecks several famous people, between friends and relatives of
McCartney who, without a justified reason, knock on the door or ring the
bell of his house and he exclaims "Let 'Em In". They include McCartney's
paternal aunt Gin, his brother Michael, and Linda McCartney's brother
John. Phil and Don of the Everly Brothers are named (the duo had a hit
with "Keep A Knockin'"), along with Martin Luther,[7] who famously hung
his "95 Theses" on a church door. An Uncle Ernie is also named, being
the character Ringo Starr sang in the London Symphony Orchestra's
recording of the Who's rock opera, Tommy.[8]
Ever hear the song "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
Well, it was ripped from a French song;
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Ne sait quand reviendra.
Ever hear the song "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
Well, it was ripped from a French song;
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Ne sait quand reviendra.
Op 8/11/2024 om 19:06 schreef wugi:
Op 8/11/2024 om 18:45 schreef Ed Cryer:
Ever hear the song "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
Well, it was ripped from a French song;
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Ne sait quand reviendra.
Same for the first one:
Frère Jaques (2x)
Dormez-vous? (2x)
Sonnent les matines (2x)
Dutch:
Broeder Jacob (2x)
Slaapt gij nog? (2x)
Hoor de klokken luiden (2x)
Bimbambom (2x)
Others?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A8re_Jacques
On 09/11/24 09:13, wugi wrote:
Op 8/11/2024 om 19:06 schreef wugi:
Op 8/11/2024 om 18:45 schreef Ed Cryer:
Ever hear the song "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
Well, it was ripped from a French song;
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Ne sait quand reviendra.
Same for the first one:
Frère Jaques (2x)
Dormez-vous? (2x)
Sonnent les matines (2x)
Dutch:
Broeder Jacob (2x)
Slaapt gij nog? (2x)
Hoor de klokken luiden (2x)
Bimbambom (2x)
Others?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A8re_Jacques
See also
http://dragon.sleepdeprived.ca/songbook/songs2/s2_26.htm
which has it in ten different languages.
On 11/8/2024 1:02 PM, HenHanna wrote:
Are you sleeping, are you sleeping. Brother John, brother John.
Morning bells are ringing,. Morning bells are ringing...........
____________________
Americans perceive it as a quintessentially British song
I would be fascinated to what Americans you are talking about. My
experience as an American would say that you are wide of the mark. Most American kids first heard / learned the sang as a round, first sang in
French a few times then in English often in unison as the grand finale.
I know in many parts of the world, the average citizen speaks 4.23
languages at age 12 while the average American never speaks more than
0.69 languages at any age. Despite that sad fact, most American children learn to sing this song at school or camp at an early age and in French.
In fact, it's this song which is often called out to convince Americans
that there are languages other than English.
But I assure you I, in all the years I have been around in America, have never seen or heard any native aver the Friar to be English.
HenHanna wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 20:02:19 +0000, HenHanna wrote:
Are you sleeping, are you sleeping. Brother John, brother John.
Morning bells are ringing,. Morning bells are ringing...........
____________________
Americans perceive it as a quintessentially British song
For me (and thousands of others) this was reinforced by
Paul McCartney singing....
(Someone's Ringing the Bell...)
Sister Suzie,
Brother John <---------
Martin Luther, Phil and Don
Brother Michael, auntie Gin
Open the door and let 'em in, yeah
______________________________________
Paul's aunt ("Auntie Gin")
Paul's brother ("Brother Michael")
The Everly Brothers ("Phil and Don")
Keith Moon ("Uncle Ernie")
Either John Entwistle or John Lennon ("Brother John")
"Sister Suzie" was Linda, who once recorded a song under the name "Suzie >>> And The Red Stripes."
______________________________
I always assumed Brother John was Beatle John. But John Eastman makes >>>>>> sense!
I read a quote somewhere that John Eastman was one of only two men Paul
would listen to, the other being George Martin.
Sister Suzie,
Brother John <---------
Martin Luther, Phil and Don
Brother Michael, auntie Gin
Open the door and let 'em in, yeah
Sister Suzie,
Brother John
seemed like characters from Nursery Rhymes.
Miss Muffet's name is Suzy or Susie Muffett.
or that Elinor Rigby became a Nun
(and became known as Sister Suzy)
Martin Luther, and
Uncle Arnie... i misheard in my head
as Albert (as in ...holes to fill the Albert Hall)
So, i saw Martin Luther and Albert Einstein (and others)
in a Sgt.Pepper like display
… And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall
_________________________
The song starts with the sound of a V. & E. Friedland Maestro
Westminster Chime doorbell, an electro-mechanical doorbell with a unique
"vibrato resonating" feature, before the rhythm begins.[5][6] The lyric
namechecks several famous people, between friends and relatives of
McCartney who, without a justified reason, knock on the door or ring the
bell of his house and he exclaims "Let 'Em In". They include McCartney's
paternal aunt Gin, his brother Michael, and Linda McCartney's brother
John. Phil and Don of the Everly Brothers are named (the duo had a hit
with "Keep A Knockin'"), along with Martin Luther,[7] who famously hung
his "95 Theses" on a church door. An Uncle Ernie is also named, being
the character Ringo Starr sang in the London Symphony Orchestra's
recording of the Who's rock opera, Tommy.[8]
Ever hear the song "For he's a jolly good fellow"?
Well, it was ripped from a French song;
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Mironton, mironton, mirontaine,
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
Ne sait quand reviendra.
Ed
Malbrough s'en va en guerre,
"Malbrough s'en va-t-en guerre" actually, as there's an epenthetic
"t" thrown in for euphony (i.e. to avoid hiatus).
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