• Re: =?UTF-8?B?ZGFuZ2xpbmc/L3Byb3ZpZGluZyB0aGUgdGVuYW50IGEgaGlnaGVyIHN0?

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Aidan Kehoe on Sat Oct 5 23:31:12 2024
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    On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 8:19:15 +0000, Aidan Kehoe wrote:


    Ar an cúigiú lá de mí Deireadh Fómhair, scríobh navi:

    1) Sharecropping is not to be conflated with tenant farming,
    providing
    the tenant a higher economic and social status.

    Source:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharecropping

    Which provide the tenant with a higher economic and social status?

    I think the phrase at the end of the sentence is dangling. Would you agree?

    Maybe the writer is trying to cram too much information into a
    sentence!

    For me it’s ungrammatical, with its mixture of the present tense with
    the
    present progressive. It also lacks clarity and I suspect was a casualty
    of the
    editing process in Wikipedia.



    >>> not to be confused

    the word was replaced with [conflated] because
    it sounded more Sophomoric... typical WP wording


    Navi will get more out of ths , if he/she
    tries to improve it.


    _________________ [dangling] means something else.


    A dangling modifier is a word or phrase that describes a word that isn't clearly stated in a sentence. This grammatical error can make the
    meaning of a sentence unclear.

    Here are some examples of dangling modifiers:

    Incorrect: "By providing students the opportunity to interact
    with each other, they become more interested and motivated".

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  • From Rich Ulrich@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Sun Oct 6 00:06:55 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 23:31:12 +0000, HenHanna <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 8:19:15 +0000, Aidan Kehoe wrote:


    Ar an cúigiú lá de mí Deireadh Fómhair, scríobh navi:

    1) Sharecropping is not to be conflated with tenant farming,
    providing
    the tenant a higher economic and social status.

    Source:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharecropping

    Which provide the tenant with a higher economic and social status?

    I think the phrase at the end of the sentence is dangling. Would you
    agree?

    Maybe the writer is trying to cram too much information into a
    sentence!

    For me it’s ungrammatical, with its mixture of the present tense with
    the
    present progressive. It also lacks clarity and I suspect was a casualty
    of the
    editing process in Wikipedia.



    >>> not to be confused

    the word was replaced with [conflated] because
    it sounded more Sophomoric... typical WP wording


    That sounds possible, but I like another possibility. The
    sentence is lousy mainly because it is unclear which is
    better.

    I don't know what distinctions define tenant farming OR
    sharecropping, but the first intention of "conflating" is,
    Don't consider sharecropping as a sub-category of
    tenant farming (assuming only minor distinctions). Because,
    income and status being involved, it will offend people.

    As I react to the syntax - it is not clear which one provides
    a higher economic status and social status -- the structure
    suggests TO ME that "tenant" should be a reference back to
    "sharecropper", yet it repeats the word "tenant".

    The sentence would be clearer as
    1) Sharecropping is not to be conflated with tenant farming,
    SINCE [sharecropping | tenant farming] PROVIDES the a higher
    economic and social status.

    --
    Rich Ulrich

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