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  • European Day of Languages (26 September)

    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 26 22:57:40 2024
    Zzzzz... Uh! sorry. More than usual amount of well-meaning guff today
    from Crystal.

    Well, look here for more:

    https://edl.ecml.at/

    Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?
    Good. Now, can you write the self-designations of all of them, in the appropriate script?

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Thu Sep 26 13:55:44 2024
    On 2024-09-26, Ross Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://edl.ecml.at/
    Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?

    Uhmm... I should be able to... but no.

    ME? "Crnogorski jezik", that must be Montenegrin. Wikipedia doesn't
    list that language code, though. Also, another separate Serbocroatian language? *sigh*

    Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
    covers both written standards?

    No Faroese (FO). Maybe the Faroe Islands don't fall under the
    umbrella of the Council of Europe.

    Good. Now, can you write the self-designations of all of them,

    Nope.

    in the appropriate script?

    Nope, I've never had any real contact with the Georgian and Armenian
    alphabets.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [email protected]

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  • From Ruud Harmsen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 27 08:07:14 2024
    Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:55:44 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> scribeva:

    On 2024-09-26, Ross Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://edl.ecml.at/
    Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?

    Uhmm... I should be able to... but no.

    ME? "Crnogorski jezik", that must be Montenegrin. Wikipedia doesn't
    list that language code, though. Also, another separate Serbocroatian >language? *sigh*

    Perhaps they are mixing up ISO 639 (languages) and ISO 3166
    (countries)? ME is montenegro, the Montenegrin language (which of
    course is simply Serbian) is cnr in ISO 639-2 and 3.

    Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
    covers both written standards?

    Yes, strange. The country code for Norway is NO, the languages are nn
    or nno for Nynorsk, and nb of nob for Bokmål.

    No Faroese (FO). Maybe the Faroe Islands don't fall under the
    umbrella of the Council of Europe.

    ISO 639 fo or fao.

    So it seems this page is either not genuine and official, or the
    organisation invented its own codes.

    For Danish and Swedish they do use language codes (da and sv), not
    country codes (DK and SE).

    Good. Now, can you write the self-designations of all of them,

    Nope.

    in the appropriate script?

    Nope, I've never had any real contact with the Georgian and Armenian >alphabets.

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  • From Ruud Harmsen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 27 08:12:35 2024
    Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:55:44 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> scribeva:

    On 2024-09-26, Ross Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://edl.ecml.at/
    Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?

    Uhmm... I should be able to... but no.

    ME? "Crnogorski jezik", that must be Montenegrin. Wikipedia doesn't
    list that language code, though. Also, another separate Serbocroatian >language? *sigh*

    If you hover the link ME, you see a URL that has sr-Latn-ME, which
    means Serbian in Latin script in Montenegro.

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to Ruud Harmsen on Fri Sep 27 17:41:12 2024
    On 2024-09-27, Ruud Harmsen <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://edl.ecml.at/

    Perhaps they are mixing up ISO 639 (languages) and ISO 3166
    (countries)?

    Apart from "ME" they are consistently using the language code.

    Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
    covers both written standards?

    Yes, strange. The country code for Norway is NO, the languages are nn
    or nno for Nynorsk, and nb of nob for Bokmål.

    Yes, but there is also "no" for Norwegian as a cover term for both.
    That might be a recent addition. I think I've seen I18N message
    catalogs switch from "nb" to "no" over the last few years.

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    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [email protected]

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  • From Ruud Harmsen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 28 10:33:14 2024
    Fri, 27 Sep 2024 17:41:12 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber <[email protected]> scribeva:

    On 2024-09-27, Ruud Harmsen <[email protected]> wrote:

    https://edl.ecml.at/

    Perhaps they are mixing up ISO 639 (languages) and ISO 3166
    (countries)?

    Apart from "ME" they are consistently using the language code.

    Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
    covers both written standards?

    Yes, strange. The country code for Norway is NO, the languages are nn
    or nno for Nynorsk, and nb of nob for Bokmål.

    Yes, but there is also "no" for Norwegian as a cover term for both.
    That might be a recent addition. I think I've seen I18N message
    catalogs switch from "nb" to "no" over the last few years.

    I see, a macrolanguage. Previously I overlooked that one in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639_language_codes

    --
    Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

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