• Laura Riding died (2/9/1991)

    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 2 22:12:56 2024
    American poet. Born NYC 1901. Cornell graduate.
    Went to Europe in 1925 and hung out with Robert Graves and his wife,
    then without his wife (see Wiki for "famous literary scandal") for 14
    years. Big influence on his work. Back in USA, married someone named
    Jackson and settled in Florida. "Lived quietly and simply" (Wiki) until
    her death*.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Riding

    Oh, and about language? Yes, Crystal: "a fascination with words was
    always present [in her poetry]...Her writing is full of intriguing and unconventional linguistic observations, such as: 'Language is a form of laziness; the word is a compromise between what is possible to express
    and what is not possible to express."

    About 1941 she gave up writing poetry, and didn't start to explain why
    until 20 years later. "Her later writings attest to what she regarded as
    the truth-potential contained in language and in the human mind. She
    might be regarded as a spiritual teacher whose unusually high valuation
    of language, led her to choose literature as the locus of her work." (Wiki)


    *Some of the quiet and simple living was done in what Wiki calls a
    "vernacular cracker house" at Vero Beach FL. Wiki links us to an article describing this type of architecture:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker_architecture

    I have always encountered "cracker" as a mildly offensive term, somewhat
    like "redneck". It's interesting to see it being rehabilitated in this way.

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  • From Aidan Kehoe@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 3 10:03:48 2024
    Ar an dara lá de mí Méan Fómhair, scríobh Ross Clark:

    [...] *Some of the quiet and simple living was done in what Wiki calls a "vernacular cracker house" at Vero Beach FL. Wiki links us to an article describing this type of architecture:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker_architecture

    I have always encountered "cracker" as a mildly offensive term, somewhat like
    "redneck". It's interesting to see it being rehabilitated in this way.

    Interesting NPR article on it here, but no convincing etymology:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/01/197644761/word-watch-on-crackers

    --
    ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
    (C. Moore)

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  • From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to Aidan Kehoe on Tue Sep 3 22:47:42 2024
    On 3/09/2024 9:03 p.m., Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    Ar an dara lá de mí Méan Fómhair, scríobh Ross Clark:

    > [...] *Some of the quiet and simple living was done in what Wiki calls a
    > "vernacular cracker house" at Vero Beach FL. Wiki links us to an article
    > describing this type of architecture:
    >
    > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker_architecture
    >
    > I have always encountered "cracker" as a mildly offensive term, somewhat like
    > "redneck". It's interesting to see it being rehabilitated in this way.

    Interesting NPR article on it here, but no convincing etymology:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/01/197644761/word-watch-on-crackers


    Yes. I tend to prefer the etymology from cracker 'a boaster, a braggart,
    hence a liar' (from 1509; OED includes the King John quote here), from
    crack 'to boast, brag' (1470-).

    There's a particularly valuable letter written by Gavin Cochrane, a
    British officer, to his superior, in 1766:

    "Repeated complaints came from the Cherokees that white people
    came into their hunting grounds and destroyed their beavers
    which they said was everything to them. I acquainted Mr. Bull
    of this and told him I would send orders to have those Beaverers
    made prisoners; as also to deliver them up to any Civil Officer
    he should appoint to receive them....[T]he Officer at Fort
    Prince George told the Indians the orders he had received and
    bid them seize the Beaverers and bring them to him without hurting
    them. They brought three of those lawless people called CRACKERS,
    who behaved with the greatest insolence and told the Officer they
    neither valued him nor the Lieut. Gov.r."

    And further down:

    "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by crackers,
    a name they have got from being great boasters, they are a
    lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland,
    the Carolinas and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

    (Mitford M.Mathews, 'Of matters lexicographical', American Speech
    34(2):126-130 (1959).)

    I remember even from childhood reading that the frontiersmen had
    developed bragging to a high art.

    Andrew Jackson's unwillingness, some decades later, to say "no" to
    massed crackers demanding Cherokee land, was what led to the Trail of
    Tears. Or so I've been told.

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