• Re: "faggot" is related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"? And fascism &

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Daniel Ruth on Sat Aug 3 10:52:04 2024
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    On 1/29/2024 11:08 AM, Daniel Ruth wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:18:31 PM UTC-4, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 17-Aug-23 14:54, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 17/08/23 22:18, Ian Tinny wrote:

    [a lot of crap]

    It's now clear that a new fuckwit has turned up. Why are they always
    attracted to AUE?
    Happiness is a warm killfile.

    --
    Sam Plusnet
    Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for Lew Rockwell's site -

    “The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.” -Greg Sutton
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/

    “Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries including (1) that the USA’s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany under Hitler’s socialism, and (2) that the so-
    called “swastika” symbol was used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” under Hitler.”
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/

    "…[D]ogs are natural libertarians…," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and
    search them, so that humans can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades. That is not an easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach humans." Bravo! Two points for Rex and Rover!
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/

    Here is a new definition of capitalism -
    Capitalism is your never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and socialism’s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and its economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.

    Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism as the solution.




    "faggot" is related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"?


    There is absolutely no etymological or historical connection between the
    words "faggot" and "fasces" or "fascism".

    Faggot is a derogatory slur that has been used against gay men. Its
    origins are unrelated to the political or historical concepts
    represented by "fasces" or "fascism".


    Fasces is an ancient Roman symbol representing a bundle of rods bound
    together around an axe. It was later adopted by fascist regimes as a
    symbol of power and unity.


    (a bundle of rods) ------ i thought that was the etym of Faggot ???

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 3 19:15:04 2024
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    In article <v8lqo5$3hvba$[email protected]>, HenHanna <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 1/29/2024 11:08 AM, Daniel Ruth wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:18:31#PM UTC-4, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 17-Aug-23 14:54, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 17/08/23 22:18, Ian Tinny wrote:

    [a lot of crap]

    It's now clear that a new fuckwit has turned up. Why are they always
    attracted to AUE?
    Happiness is a warm killfile.

    -- Sam Plusnet
    Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for Lew Rockwell's site -

    �The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.� -Greg
    Sutton https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/

    �Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries including
    (1) that the USA�s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the origin of
    the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany under
    Hitler�s socialism, and (2) that the so-called �swastika� symbol was
    used to represent �S� letter shapes for �SOCIALISM� under Hitler.� https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/

    "�[D]ogs are natural libertarians�," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who
    defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our
    Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and search them, so that humans
    can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades. That is not an
    easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach humans." Bravo! Two
    points for Rex and Rover! https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/

    Here is a new definition of capitalism - Capitalism is your
    never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and socialism�s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and its economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.

    Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism as
    the solution.




    "faggot" is related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"?


    There is absolutely no etymological or historical connection between the words "faggot" and "fasces" or "fascism".

    Faggot is a derogatory slur that has been used against gay men. Its
    origins are unrelated to the political or historical concepts
    represented by "fasces" or "fascism".


    Fasces is an ancient Roman symbol representing a bundle of rods bound together around an axe. It was later adopted by fascist regimes as a
    symbol of power and unity.


    (a bundle of rods) ------ i thought that was the etym of Faggot ???


    The musical instrument known in English as a "bassoon" is known as "fagot"
    in French and "faggot" in German. That is based on "bundle of rods".

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t�
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Helmut Richter@21:1/5 to charles on Sat Aug 3 21:35:09 2024
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 3 Aug 2024, charles wrote:

    In article <v8lqo5$3hvba$[email protected]>, HenHanna <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 1/29/2024 11:08 AM, Daniel Ruth wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 3:18:31#PM UTC-4, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 17-Aug-23 14:54, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 17/08/23 22:18, Ian Tinny wrote:

    [a lot of crap]

    It's now clear that a new fuckwit has turned up. Why are they always >>> attracted to AUE?
    Happiness is a warm killfile.

    -- Sam Plusnet
    Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for Lew Rockwell's site -

    ”The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.• -Greg Sutton https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/

    ”Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries including (1) that the USA‘s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany under Hitler‘s socialism, and (2) that the so-called ”swastika• symbol was
    used to represent ”S• letter shapes for ”SOCIALISM• under Hitler.•
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/

    "Œ[D]ogs are natural libertariansŒ," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our
    Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and search them, so that humans can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades. That is not an easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach humans." Bravo! Two points for Rex and Rover! https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/

    Here is a new definition of capitalism - Capitalism is your
    never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and socialism‘s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and its economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.

    Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism as the solution.




    "faggot" is related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"?


    There is absolutely no etymological or historical connection between the words "faggot" and "fasces" or "fascism".

    Faggot is a derogatory slur that has been used against gay men. Its
    origins are unrelated to the political or historical concepts
    represented by "fasces" or "fascism".


    Fasces is an ancient Roman symbol representing a bundle of rods bound together around an axe. It was later adopted by fascist regimes as a
    symbol of power and unity.


    (a bundle of rods) ------ i thought that was the etym of Faggot ???


    The musical instrument known in English as a "bassoon" is known as "fagot"
    in French and "faggot" in German. That is based on "bundle of rods".

    Minor correction: The spelling is with one -g- in all languages I found
    where the word has this root. Some languages have one -t-, some have two.
    In German, it is spelt "Fagott".

    Just to make a difference to "faggot".

    --
    Helmut Richter

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to charles on Sat Aug 3 20:48:46 2024
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    On 2024-08-03, charles <[email protected]> wrote:

    The musical instrument known in English as a "bassoon" is known as "fagot"
    in French and "faggot" in German. That is based on "bundle of rods".

    The German term is "Fagott".

    The NATO reporting name for the MiG-15 is "Fagot". As far as I can
    tell, all of those reporting names are taken from the wider English
    lexicon. It's not clear to me whether this one is a variant of
    "faggot" (bundle of sticks or pieces of iron) or of "fagotto"
    (bassoon), which are two options offered by Wiktionary.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber [email protected]

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Christian Weisgerber on Sat Aug 3 16:49:25 2024
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    On 8/3/2024 1:48 PM, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
    On 2024-08-03, charles <[email protected]> wrote:

    The musical instrument known in English as a "bassoon" is known as "fagot" >> in French and "faggot" in German. That is based on "bundle of rods".

    The German term is "Fagott".

    The NATO reporting name for the MiG-15 is "Fagot". As far as I can
    tell, all of those reporting names are taken from the wider English
    lexicon. It's not clear to me whether this one is a variant of
    "faggot" (bundle of sticks or pieces of iron) or of "fagotto"
    (bassoon), which are two options offered by Wiktionary.




    Some authors in Japan use the term [ファッショ] fascio

    it tends to be High-brow or Academic.

    Maybe they do this to show off their knowledge of
    Italian poli-sci-philosopher.... e.g. Gramsci



    ファッショ とはどういう意味ですか?

    ファッシ(イタリア語: fasci:複数形)およびファッショ(イタリア語:
    fascio:�数形)は、イタリア語で「束�や、比喩的に「集団、連帯�を意味し、転じて19世紀末に多数の異なった(そしてしばしば相互に対立する)方向性を持った政治集団を指す語として�
    ��われた。

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