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  • [So help me God] -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 21 19:50:21 2024
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    I do... (reminds me...) that

    [So help me God] -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)


    there must be other common phrases that are subtle like that.

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  • From John Armstrong@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Mon Jul 22 09:05:54 2024
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    On 22/07/2024 03:50, HenHanna wrote:
    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)


    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    Imperative mood, surely.

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  • From Chris Elvidge@21:1/5 to John Armstrong on Mon Jul 22 12:38:08 2024
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    On 22/07/2024 at 09:05, John Armstrong wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 03:50, HenHanna wrote:
    I do... (reminds me...) that

    [So help me God] -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)


    there must be other common phrases that are subtle like that.

    Imperative mood, surely.

    Actually "subjective mood".


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  • From Antonio Marques@21:1/5 to John Armstrong on Mon Jul 22 12:27:23 2024
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    John Armstrong <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 03:50, HenHanna wrote:
    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)


    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    Imperative mood, surely.


    It's subjunctive in portuguese - assim Deus me ajude - expressing a wish/conditional, not a command.

    We (pt) do use the subjunctive as an imperative for other persons than etymological 2nd, but I don't think this (eng) is such a case. Not because
    it's God. 'So the weather allow' wouldn't be a command either.

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  • From lar3ryca@21:1/5 to Chris Elvidge on Mon Jul 22 20:50:20 2024
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    On 2024-07-22 05:38, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 at 09:05, John Armstrong wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 03:50, HenHanna wrote:
    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)


    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    Imperative mood, surely.

    Actually "subjective mood".

    Wishful thinking mood, IMO.
    --
    I read that 10 out of two people are dyslexic.

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  • From John Armstrong@21:1/5 to Chris Elvidge on Tue Jul 23 07:45:41 2024
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    On 22/07/2024 12:38, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 at 09:05, John Armstrong wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 03:50, HenHanna wrote:
    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)


    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    Imperative mood, surely.

    Actually "subjective mood".


    Never heard of that. You've made it up.

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 23 09:06:47 2024
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    Le 22/07/2024 à 03:50, HenHanna a écrit :

    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)

    I agree it's in the subjunctive...

    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    ... but I don't see how that makes it subtle.

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Hibou on Tue Jul 23 12:43:39 2024
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    On 7/23/2024 1:06 AM, Hibou wrote:
    Le 22/07/2024 à 03:50, HenHanna a écrit :

    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)

    I agree it's in the subjunctive...

    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    ... but I don't see how that makes it subtle.


    (are you pulling a Von-Neumann on me?)


    it's subtle enuf that lots of average ppl wouldnt know it.

    like... [God save the Queen] is in Subjunctive (mood)


    DV (Deo Volente) --- Volente is (in) present participle ?

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to John Armstrong on Tue Jul 23 21:35:11 2024
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    On 23/07/2024 07:45, John Armstrong wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 12:38, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 at 09:05, John Armstrong wrote:
    On 22/07/2024 03:50, HenHanna wrote:
    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)


    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    Imperative mood, surely.

    Actually "subjective mood".


    Never heard of that. You've made it up.

    And then there's "husband mood" - ONE mood, ALL the damn time.

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    Richard Heathfield
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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 24 06:07:03 2024
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    Le 23/07/2024 à 20:43, HenHanna a écrit :
    On 7/23/2024 1:06 AM, Hibou wrote:
    Le 22/07/2024 à 03:50, HenHanna a écrit :

    I do...   (reminds me...)  that

    [So help me God]  -- must be in Subjunctive (mood)

    I agree it's in the subjunctive...

    there must be other common phrases that are subtle  like that.

    ... but I don't see how that makes it subtle.

               (are you pulling a Von-Neumann on me?)

    it's subtle enuf that lots of average ppl wouldnt know it.

    like...  [God save the Queen]  is in Subjunctive (mood) [...]

    Is every phrase that Joe Bloggs couldn't parse subtle?

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