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  • Re: `to console for'

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Anton Shepelev on Sun Jul 21 14:23:10 2024
    XPost: alt.english.usage, alt.usage.english

    On 11/20/2022 3:07 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
    Hello, all.
    What is the meaning of "console for" in the following
    passage from "The Mysteries of Udolpho":

    whatever may be the evils resulting from a too
    susceptible heart, nothing can be hoped from an
    insensible one; that, on the other hand, is all
    vice -- vice, of which the deformity is not softened, or
    the effect consoled for, by any semblance or possibility
    of good.

    I have looked in several dictionaries, yet none listed a
    meaning compatible an indirect object introduced via `for'.



    In the passage "consoled for" means to be mitigated or
    lessened in severity.
    Here, the author is contrasting an overly sensitive heart
    with a completely unfeeling one. They argue that while a sensitive heart
    might lead to suffering, an unfeeling heart represents pure vice. This
    vice is worse because its negative effects cannot be softened or made
    less severe by any possibility of good.

    In simpler terms, the author suggests that while someone who
    feels too much might experience pain, someone who feels nothing at all
    embodies pure evil. This evil cannot be redeemed or lessened by any
    potential for good deeds.

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  • From Anton Shepelev@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 22 13:10:07 2024
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    Hen Hanna to Anton Shepelev:

    What is the meaning of "console for" in the following
    passage from "The Mysteries of Udolpho":

    whatever may be the evils resulting from a too
    susceptible heart, nothing can be hoped from an
    insensible one; that, on the other hand, is all
    vice -- vice, of which the deformity is not softened,
    or the effect consoled for, by any semblance or
    possibility of good.

    I have looked in several dictionaries, yet none listed a
    meaning compatible an indirect object introcuduced via
    `for'.

    In the passage "consoled for" means to be mitigated or
    lessened in severity.

    Thank you. Does the preposition `for` act upon `deformity`?
    If not, upon which noun does it act?

    Here, the author is contrasting an overly sensitive heart
    with a completely unfeeling one. They argue that while a
    sensitive heart might lead to suffering, an unfeeling
    heart represents pure vice. This vice is worse because its
    negative effects cannot be softened or made less severe by
    any possibility of good.

    In simpler terms, the author suggests that while someone
    who feels too much might experience pain, someone who
    feels nothing at all embodies pure evil. This evil cannot
    be redeemed or lessened by any potential for good deeds.

    This is a good explanation, but why did you call Ann
    Radcliffe `they`? I think only an LLM would do so. Will
    you claim that you have mended your Usenet manner: started
    to use normal formatting and proper capitalisation?

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