• National Clerihew Day (10 July)

    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 10 21:57:08 2024
    Birthday of Edmund Clerihew Bentley (1875-1956), journalist, writer of detective novels, and humorous poet.
    Created (aged 16) the poetic form named after him.

    Whimsical four-line verse.
    First line is name of someone well known.
    Second line makes a general observation about them.
    Third and fourth lines are comical or nonsensical.
    Line lengths are irregular.
    Rhyme scheme: AABB

    A couple of ECB's originals:

    Lewis Carroll
    Bought sumptuous apparel
    And built an enormous palace
    Out of the profits of _Alice_.

    Sir Christopher Wren
    Said, "I am going to dine with some men.
    If anyone calls
    Say I am designing St Paul's."

    More here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Wed Jul 10 12:13:05 2024
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    On 7/10/2024 2:57 AM, Ross Clark wrote:
    Birthday of Edmund Clerihew Bentley (1875-1956), journalist, writer of detective novels, and humorous poet.
    Created (aged 16) the poetic form named after him.

    Whimsical four-line verse.
    First line is name of someone well known.
    Second line makes a general observation about them.
    Third and fourth lines are comical or nonsensical.
    Line lengths are irregular.
    Rhyme scheme: AABB

    A couple of ECB's originals:

    Lewis Carroll
    Bought sumptuous apparel
    And built an enormous palace
    Out of the profits of _Alice_.

    Sir Christopher Wren
    Said, "I am going to dine with some men.
    If anyone calls
    Say I am designing St Paul's."

    More here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew



    i'm sure that... Lots of ppl who consider themselves
    cultured and well-read
    have never heard of a "Clerihew poem" or [echo verse]


    i once met a young man who was in his 2nd(?) year in his
    Ph.D. studies of English Lit. at an American university...
    (he spoke pretty good English)
    i said something about a limerick and he'd never heard of it.



    A Ph.D. student of English Lit
    Betrays an Aptitude of being Unfit.
    It's fine to study Shelly, Keats, and T.Eliot
    But the toilet fun of "Nantucket" -- Could tell he it?

    ______________________________


    The most famous "Nantucket" poem isn't actually a poem but a limerick, a humorous five-line verse form. Here's the classic (and slightly risqué) version:

    There once was a man from Nantucket,
    Who kept all his cash in a bucket.
    But his daughter named Nan,
    Ran away with a man,
    And as for the bucket, Nantucket.

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 11 09:00:40 2024
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    Le 10/07/2024 à 20:13, HenHanna a écrit :

    The most famous "Nantucket" poem isn't actually a poem but a limerick, a humorous five-line verse form. Here's the classic (and slightly risqué) version:

                There once was a man from Nantucket,
                Who kept all his cash in a bucket.
                    But his daughter named Nan,
                    Ran away with a man,
                And as for the bucket, Nantucket.

    I like it, and I don't think it's risqué at all.

    Is it ChatGPT that thinks it's risqué, and has it just found out what a limerick is?

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Hibou on Thu Jul 11 02:42:29 2024
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    On 7/11/2024 1:00 AM, Hibou wrote:
    Le 10/07/2024 à 20:13, HenHanna a écrit :

    The most famous "Nantucket" poem isn't actually a poem but a limerick,
    a humorous five-line verse form. Here's the classic (and slightly
    risqué) version:

                 There once was a man from Nantucket,
                 Who kept all his cash in a bucket.
                     But his daughter named Nan,
                     Ran away with a man,
                 And as for the bucket, Nantucket.

    I like it, and I don't think it's risqué at all.

    Is it ChatGPT that thinks it's risqué, and has it just found out what a limerick is?



    it's Bard.Google.com

    i almost never use ChatGPT now.


    i tried the new one, but it was no good.

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 11 11:36:48 2024
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    Le 11/07/2024 à 10:42, HenHanna a écrit :
    On 7/11/2024 1:00 AM, Hibou wrote:

    Is it ChatGPT that thinks it's risqué, and has it just found out what
    a limerick is?

    it's  Bard.Google.com

    i almost never use   ChatGPT   now.

              i tried the new one, but it was no good.

    I'd find it helpful in forums like this one if text from AIs were
    enclosed in inverted commas and had the appropriate attribution.

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