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  • Victoria Fromkin died (19-1-2000)

    From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 19 16:02:15 2024
    A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA.
    More or less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
    I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.

    Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue),
    which is what Crystal devotes the page to.

    Created a "primitive" language for a children's television series called
    "Land of the Lost" (1974-5). Also a vampire language for the movie
    "Blade" (1998).

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  • From Jeff Barnett@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Thu Jan 18 22:31:26 2024
    On 1/18/2024 8:02 PM, Ross Clark wrote:
    A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA.
    More or less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
    I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.

    Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue),
    which is what Crystal devotes the page to.

    Created a "primitive" language for a children's television series called "Land of the Lost" (1974-5). Also a vampire language for the movie
    "Blade" (1998).

    I had the pleasure of working with Ladefoged in the 1970s; he consulted
    with us on the DARPA-sponsored Speech Understanding Project. He was a
    pleasure to work with as were the many of his henchmen that I met. I
    never met Fromkin though. From what little you say above I think that is
    my loss. Your description brings to mind a similar vein of research by
    Frederic Bartlett who studied memory around the turn of the 20th century
    and influenced Piaget's theories of child development.
    --
    Jeff Barnett

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  • From Aidan Kehoe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 19 08:20:18 2024
    Ar an naoú lá déag de mí Eanair, scríobh Ross Clark:

    A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA. More or
    less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
    I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.

    Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue), which
    is what Crystal devotes the page to.

    Something very worth studying. The more life experience I get the clearer that Chomsky was wrong in his lack of interest in second language acquisition (on the idea that it was studying something imperfect); you get most insight into any complex system from studying the ways that it breaks, whether that be rare bugs in computer programs or rare recessive diseases in people (e.g. familial hypercholesterolaemia giving insight into heart disease, stroke in the general population.)

    --
    ‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
    (C. Moore)

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Fri Jan 19 15:33:24 2024
    On 2024-01-19 03:02:15 +0000, Ross Clark said:

    A New Jersey native (born 1923) who made her academic career at UCLA.
    More or less contemporary with Peter Ladefoged in that department.
    I met her a couple of times when I was a student in those regions.

    Best known for her studies of performance errors (slips of the tongue),
    which is what Crystal devotes the page to.

    Created a "primitive" language for a children's television series
    called "Land of the Lost" (1974-5). Also a vampire language for the
    movie "Blade" (1998).

    Many thanks, Ross, for reviving your hatched-matched-dispatched posts
    (maybe not often matched, but certainly hatched and dispatched). Let's
    us hope it helps to keep sci.lang alive.


    --
    Athel cb

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