• Tantalum Capacitors in Audio

    From UFO@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 22 23:10:20 2024
    Someone said Tantalum caps in audio circuits are not as good as traditional electrolytics? Is this true?

    I was told bi-polar electrolytic caps as coupling caps have a better
    bandwidth than polarized....?

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  • From Dave Platt@21:1/5 to UFO on Wed Oct 23 16:16:45 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    UFO <[email protected]> wrote:
    Someone said Tantalum caps in audio circuits are not as good as traditional >electrolytics? Is this true?

    You might want to review what's said at

    https://sound-au.com/articles/capacitors.htm

    A lot of people really don't like putting tantalums in an audio signal
    path (especially the more-common solid-tantalum "bead" caps), either
    because they "sound bad", or because:

    - They don't tolerate reverse polarity at all well (distortion
    and/or failure)
    - They don't tolerate over-voltage
    - They don't tolerate sudden charge/discharge cycles
    - When they fail, they tend to fail shorted (sometimes solidly
    so, sometimes intermittently so)

    They're used, a lot, as power-supply bypass caps in older test
    equipment (Tek, HP, etc.), and I'd say that they're the #1
    cause of failure I've seen in such equipment. When a piece
    of test gear just stops working (and sometimes starts emitting
    a horrendous bad smell) my first reaction is to look for a tantalum
    bead cap which has shorted out and fried itself... and I usually
    find one. I usually replace 'em with high-frequency-rated aluminum
    'electros of about 5x or 10x the capacitance, and that has always
    worked fine.

    I was told bi-polar electrolytic caps as coupling caps have a better >bandwidth than polarized....?

    Depends what you mean by "bandwidth", and how you're comparing. According
    to Elliot, most modern 'lytics have a bandwidth up into the MHz range...
    the foils are bonded togther in a way which minimizes parasitic
    inductance (unlike in some older 'lytic types). So, they should have
    a high-frequency bandwidth limit far in excess of what you'll need
    for audio coupling.

    Bipolar 'lytics tend to be physically larger than polar ones, for the same voltage rating and capacitance. If you're limited to caps of a particular physical size, then you can get more uF into that space with a polar
    'lytic, and this will extend the low-frequency end of the frequency
    response range (all else being equal). Whether that's relevant or not
    in your circuit, is up to you to decide.

    My general understanding is that polar 'lytics can work as well as
    non-polar, for signal-level audio coupling, if you keep two things in
    mind:

    - Use a large enough amount of capacitance that the voltage across
    the cap does not vary significantly during normal use... that is,
    the low-frequency cutoff is well below audio. Elliot recommends
    sizing them at 10x what you'd need to get your desired low-end
    rolloff frequency.

    - Bias them properly. Lore usually holds that distortion can begin
    to appear if the voltage across them dips down below zero (reverse
    polarizing the dielectric). I've read some opinions that this
    isn't a significant problem for _small_ reverse voltages (say,
    a volt or so) but haven't personally tested this.

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