• Re: remember covid?

    From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sun Mar 16 10:42:53 2025
    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? “It
    sort of just appeared,” Fauci said during a preliminary interview for
    the subcommittee hearing, adding that he “was not aware of any studies” that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did
    the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun Mar 16 11:04:29 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:42:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    <https://archive.is/CQzbl>


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? �It
    sort of just appeared,� Fauci said during a preliminary interview for
    the subcommittee hearing, adding that he �was not aware of any studies�
    that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did
    the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal >distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?


    Is this in today's Sunday NYT?

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 07:26:53 2025
    https://archive.is/CQzbl

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Joe Gwinn on Sun Mar 16 11:17:04 2025
    On 3/16/2025 11:04 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:42:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    <https://archive.is/CQzbl>


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? “It
    sort of just appeared,” Fauci said during a preliminary interview for
    the subcommittee hearing, adding that he “was not aware of any studies” >> that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did
    the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal
    distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?


    Is this in today's Sunday NYT?

    Nah, the article is from a year ago.

    Mistakes were made during the first Trump administration's handling of
    the pandemic; the lies told weren't big enough and internal NIH records indicated a lack of transparency.

    They learned things from the experience and will rectify these problems
    this time by only telling big lies and not keeping any records.

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  • From ehsjr@21:1/5 to Joe Gwinn on Sun Mar 16 13:12:35 2025
    On 3/16/2025 11:04 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:42:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    <https://archive.is/CQzbl>


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? “It
    sort of just appeared,” Fauci said during a preliminary interview for
    the subcommittee hearing, adding that he “was not aware of any studies” >> that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did
    the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal
    distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?


    Is this in today's Sunday NYT?

    The first page contains "March 16, 2025, 6:00 a.m. ET"
    and a Google search on the title "We Were Badly Misled
    About the Event That Changed Our Lives"
    results in

    Opinion | We Were Badly Misled About Covid
    The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com › covid-pandemic-lab-leak
    7 hours ago — Five years after the onset of the Covid pandemic, it's
    tempting to think of all that as ancient history. We learned our lesson
    about lab safety ...

    Ed

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 13:09:51 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 09:42:12 -0700, john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 11:04:29 -0400, Joe Gwinn <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:42:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    <https://archive.is/CQzbl>


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? �It >>>sort of just appeared,� Fauci said during a preliminary interview for
    the subcommittee hearing, adding that he �was not aware of any studies� >>>that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did >>>the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal >>>distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?


    Is this in today's Sunday NYT?

    No. It doesn't mention "Trump" so wouldn't be allowed.

    Good point, but the dateline is "March 16, 2025, 6:00 a.m. ET", and
    yet no Donald. Maybe that's the solution - do not speak the name, for
    it might summon him.

    This is well after the deadline for the Sunday paper. Maybe it'll be
    in the Monday NYT.

    Joe

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 09:42:12 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 11:04:29 -0400, Joe Gwinn <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:42:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    <https://archive.is/CQzbl>


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? �It >>sort of just appeared,� Fauci said during a preliminary interview for
    the subcommittee hearing, adding that he �was not aware of any studies� >>that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did
    the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal >>distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?


    Is this in today's Sunday NYT?

    No. It doesn't mention "Trump" so wouldn't be allowed.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Joe Gwinn on Sun Mar 16 14:01:53 2025
    On 3/16/2025 1:09 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 09:42:12 -0700, john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 11:04:29 -0400, Joe Gwinn <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:42:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    <https://archive.is/CQzbl>


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? “It >>>> sort of just appeared,” Fauci said during a preliminary interview for >>>> the subcommittee hearing, adding that he “was not aware of any studies”
    that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did >>>> the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal >>>> distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?


    Is this in today's Sunday NYT?

    No. It doesn't mention "Trump" so wouldn't be allowed.

    Good point, but the dateline is "March 16, 2025, 6:00 a.m. ET", and
    yet no Donald. Maybe that's the solution - do not speak the name, for
    it might summon him.

    This is well after the deadline for the Sunday paper. Maybe it'll be
    in the Monday NYT.

    Joe

    Oops, got my date from this related one by her on the same topic:

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/08/opinion/covid-fauci-hearings-health.html>

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun Mar 16 15:24:03 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:01:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 1:09 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 09:42:12 -0700, john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 11:04:29 -0400, Joe Gwinn <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:42:53 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    <https://archive.is/CQzbl>


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? �It >>>>> sort of just appeared,� Fauci said during a preliminary interview for >>>>> the subcommittee hearing, adding that he �was not aware of any studies� >>>>> that supported it."

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did >>>>> the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal >>>>> distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?


    Is this in today's Sunday NYT?

    No. It doesn't mention "Trump" so wouldn't be allowed.

    Good point, but the dateline is "March 16, 2025, 6:00 a.m. ET", and
    yet no Donald. Maybe that's the solution - do not speak the name, for
    it might summon him.

    This is well after the deadline for the Sunday paper. Maybe it'll be
    in the Monday NYT.

    Joe

    Oops, got my date from this related one by her on the same topic:

    <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/08/opinion/covid-fauci-hearings-health.html>

    Ahh. I'll look that one up, for the comparison.

    Joe

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Mar 17 14:13:54 2025
    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    It's a click-bait title, she mostly just talks about what she wants to
    talk about (seems to be catching the "I am being silenced"-bug as many
    people with an audience of millions tend to) and uses weasel words like
    "Some public health officials..." without actually naming names or
    calling anyone specific out.

    Likely because the evidence "we were badly misled" doesn't amount to
    much and so if she puts what she wants to say too late in the op ed
    nobody's going to read that far.

    Soooo she's still an Ivy League academic. NYT is still the NYT

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Mar 17 14:29:31 2025
    On 3/17/2025 2:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    It's a click-bait title, she mostly just talks about what she wants to
    talk about (seems to be catching the "I am being silenced"-bug as many
    people with an audience of millions tend to) and uses weasel words like
    "Some public health officials..." without actually naming names or
    calling anyone specific out.

    My bad actually there's a text message from Kristian Andersen and Dr.
    Morens. So old news about two people

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Mar 17 12:10:58 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:13:54 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    It's a click-bait title, she mostly just talks about what she wants to
    talk about (seems to be catching the "I am being silenced"-bug as many
    people with an audience of millions tend to) and uses weasel words like
    "Some public health officials..." without actually naming names or
    calling anyone specific out.

    Likely because the evidence "we were badly misled" doesn't amount to
    much and so if she puts what she wants to say too late in the op ed
    nobody's going to read that far.

    Soooo she's still an Ivy League academic. NYT is still the NYT

    "Trust the science" actually means "Trust the scientists" which is not
    at all the same thing.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Mar 17 16:58:32 2025
    On 3/17/2025 3:10 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:13:54 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    It's a click-bait title, she mostly just talks about what she wants to
    talk about (seems to be catching the "I am being silenced"-bug as many
    people with an audience of millions tend to) and uses weasel words like
    "Some public health officials..." without actually naming names or
    calling anyone specific out.

    Likely because the evidence "we were badly misled" doesn't amount to
    much and so if she puts what she wants to say too late in the op ed
    nobody's going to read that far.

    Soooo she's still an Ivy League academic. NYT is still the NYT

    "Trust the science" actually means "Trust the scientists" which is not
    at all the same thing.


    Kristian G. Andersen probably regrets that one text he sent where he
    vaguely supported the lab leak hypothesis, I guess it doesn't matter how
    many thousands of times he later says variants of "I thought that for a
    bit but realized I was being stupid" after that, conspiracy theorists
    will treat that one time he said something that they like as God's truth
    and evidence of a cover-up, not evidence of an academic being stupid
    which does happen sometimes but isn't nearly as interesting.

    Thinking multiple things at the same time or changing one's mind does
    happen but "experts" seem to almost always be punished for that kind of flip-flopping, unlike being a politician where saying things like "I was
    a Communist, that is until I realized I hated Communism" or "I was for
    the war, before I was against it" seems to be some kind of rite of
    passage to the big time.

    Perhaps it's just the optics of it looking like the flip was done
    covertly rather than the kind of clearly self-serving flip-flopping
    politicians tend to do out in the open, the latter's a more honest kind
    of lying I guess.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Mar 17 16:06:42 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:58:32 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/17/2025 3:10 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:13:54 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    It's a click-bait title, she mostly just talks about what she wants to
    talk about (seems to be catching the "I am being silenced"-bug as many
    people with an audience of millions tend to) and uses weasel words like
    "Some public health officials..." without actually naming names or
    calling anyone specific out.

    Likely because the evidence "we were badly misled" doesn't amount to
    much and so if she puts what she wants to say too late in the op ed
    nobody's going to read that far.

    Soooo she's still an Ivy League academic. NYT is still the NYT

    "Trust the science" actually means "Trust the scientists" which is not
    at all the same thing.


    Kristian G. Andersen probably regrets that one text he sent where he
    vaguely supported the lab leak hypothesis, I guess it doesn't matter how
    many thousands of times he later says variants of "I thought that for a
    bit but realized I was being stupid" after that, conspiracy theorists
    will treat that one time he said something that they like as God's truth
    and evidence of a cover-up, not evidence of an academic being stupid
    which does happen sometimes but isn't nearly as interesting.

    Thinking multiple things at the same time or changing one's mind does
    happen but "experts" seem to almost always be punished for that kind of >flip-flopping, unlike being a politician where saying things like "I was
    a Communist, that is until I realized I hated Communism" or "I was for
    the war, before I was against it" seems to be some kind of rite of
    passage to the big time.

    Perhaps it's just the optics of it looking like the flip was done
    covertly rather than the kind of clearly self-serving flip-flopping >politicians tend to do out in the open, the latter's a more honest kind
    of lying I guess.

    In electronic design, it's useful to stay confused and change your
    mind a lot, in the early design stages. Stagger around the infinite
    solution space. But then you have to switch to the brutally
    disciplined, make no mistakes implementation mode. Not many people are comfortable doing both.

    In electronic design, as in hard sciences like math and physics, you
    eventually find out if you were right. In the soft and fuzzy studies,
    you may never know.

    In the case of covid, it was politically forbidden to insult the
    Chinese by suggesting the lab leak idea, even though it was about
    1000:1 the probable origin of the virus. Politics swamped "science."

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Mar 17 19:41:00 2025
    On 3/17/2025 7:06 PM, john larkin wrote:

    Perhaps it's just the optics of it looking like the flip was done
    covertly rather than the kind of clearly self-serving flip-flopping
    politicians tend to do out in the open, the latter's a more honest kind
    of lying I guess.

    In electronic design, it's useful to stay confused and change your
    mind a lot, in the early design stages. Stagger around the infinite
    solution space. But then you have to switch to the brutally
    disciplined, make no mistakes implementation mode. Not many people are comfortable doing both.

    In electronic design, as in hard sciences like math and physics, you eventually find out if you were right. In the soft and fuzzy studies,
    you may never know.

    In the case of covid, it was politically forbidden to insult the
    Chinese by suggesting the lab leak idea, even though it was about
    1000:1 the probable origin of the virus. Politics swamped "science."


    The bulk of the evidence seems to be from early 2020, it must have been
    a suck to be one of the like, five people working in a capacity for the
    first Trump administration who felt "politically forbidden" to say
    pretty much any nonsense that came to mind.

    The rewards surely would have been lavish for speaking out then but I
    guess the threat of the Woke Mob Assassins was too much to reckon with
    for the academics in question.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Mar 18 11:40:09 2025
    On 18/03/2025 6:10 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:13:54 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    It's a click-bait title, she mostly just talks about what she wants to
    talk about (seems to be catching the "I am being silenced"-bug as many
    people with an audience of millions tend to) and uses weasel words like
    "Some public health officials..." without actually naming names or
    calling anyone specific out.

    Likely because the evidence "we were badly misled" doesn't amount to
    much and so if she puts what she wants to say too late in the op ed
    nobody's going to read that far.

    Soooo she's still an Ivy League academic. NYT is still the NYT

    "Trust the science" actually means "Trust the scientists" which is not
    at all the same thing.

    It doesn't. Scientists disagree quite a lot, and people trained in
    science are trained to read the literature and make up their own minds
    about the relative merits of what has been published.

    John Larkin is notorious for trusting what the climate change denial
    propaganda machine has to say about the science involved.

    The "scientists" who can be bribed to say what suits the climate change
    denial propaganda machine, aren't even vaguely trustworthy, and Anthony
    Watts - who John Larkin quotes a lot - hasn't even had any kind of
    scientific training.

    The people who like to push that lab leakage theory about the origin of Covid-19 don't know much about science, but do have a political agenda.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin @21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Mar 17 19:21:24 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:41:00 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/17/2025 7:06 PM, john larkin wrote:

    Perhaps it's just the optics of it looking like the flip was done
    covertly rather than the kind of clearly self-serving flip-flopping
    politicians tend to do out in the open, the latter's a more honest kind
    of lying I guess.

    In electronic design, it's useful to stay confused and change your
    mind a lot, in the early design stages. Stagger around the infinite
    solution space. But then you have to switch to the brutally
    disciplined, make no mistakes implementation mode. Not many people are
    comfortable doing both.

    In electronic design, as in hard sciences like math and physics, you
    eventually find out if you were right. In the soft and fuzzy studies,
    you may never know.

    In the case of covid, it was politically forbidden to insult the
    Chinese by suggesting the lab leak idea, even though it was about
    1000:1 the probable origin of the virus. Politics swamped "science."


    The bulk of the evidence seems to be from early 2020,

    The bulk of the evidence has been concealed or destroyed by the guilty
    parties.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Mar 18 00:04:55 2025
    On 3/17/2025 10:21 PM, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:41:00 -0400, bitrex <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/17/2025 7:06 PM, john larkin wrote:

    Perhaps it's just the optics of it looking like the flip was done
    covertly rather than the kind of clearly self-serving flip-flopping
    politicians tend to do out in the open, the latter's a more honest kind >>>> of lying I guess.

    In electronic design, it's useful to stay confused and change your
    mind a lot, in the early design stages. Stagger around the infinite
    solution space. But then you have to switch to the brutally
    disciplined, make no mistakes implementation mode. Not many people are
    comfortable doing both.

    In electronic design, as in hard sciences like math and physics, you
    eventually find out if you were right. In the soft and fuzzy studies,
    you may never know.

    In the case of covid, it was politically forbidden to insult the
    Chinese by suggesting the lab leak idea, even though it was about
    1000:1 the probable origin of the virus. Politics swamped "science."


    The bulk of the evidence seems to be from early 2020,

    The bulk of the evidence has been concealed or destroyed by the guilty parties.


    Do you believe Kristian G. Andersen, David Morens, Fauci et al had some evidence highly supportive of the Chinese lab-leak hypothesis, evidence
    which no one else was or is capable of discerning independently?

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Bill Sloman on Tue Mar 18 02:33:50 2025
    On 3/17/2025 8:40 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

    "Trust the science" actually means "Trust the scientists" which is not
    at all the same thing.

    It doesn't. Scientists disagree quite a lot, and people trained in
    science are trained to read the literature and make up their own minds
    about the relative merits of what has been published.

    John Larkin is notorious for trusting what the climate change denial propaganda machine has to say about the science involved.

    The "scientists" who can be bribed to say what suits the climate change denial propaganda machine, aren't even vaguely trustworthy, and Anthony
    Watts - who John Larkin quotes a lot - hasn't even had any kind of
    scientific training.

    The people who like to push that lab leakage theory about the origin of Covid-19 don't know much about science, but do have a political agenda.


    There's a train of thought among some academics like the author of the
    article that if virologists just let well enough alone and didn't bring
    strange bat viruses back to the lab to study, they would never pose any
    risk to humans.

    Of course, to believe the idea that they don't pose any risk in the wild
    you kind of have to be a lab-leak conspiracy theorist to begin with.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Mar 18 09:35:32 2025
    On 16/03/2025 14:42, bitrex wrote:
    On 3/16/2025 10:26 AM, john larkin wrote:

    https://archive.is/CQzbl


    "Remember the rule that we should all stay at least six feet apart? “It sort of just appeared,” Fauci said during a preliminary interview for
    the subcommittee hearing, adding that he “was not aware of any studies” that supported it."

    It was a reasonable guess at the time that standing any closer together
    than 2m (ROW) risked breathing in more than enough of what someone in
    front of your had just exhaled along with contaminated water droplets.
    Locally we settled on about 3m (10') apart (and totally ignored the UK government's silly no more than 3 people rule since you invariably met
    other couples or families sometimes more than one at a time).

    It wasn't entirely without foundation. 100um droplets fall out of the
    air before they get more than a couple of metres away from you.

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9149

    That was mostly prior knowledge from other infectious diseases like flu
    which the initial pandemic response was based on. A lot more research
    was done into it as a result of Covid-19.

    I can smell vapers from about 10m behind them so I always wondered just
    how effective it was as a strategy. However, I managed to avoid catching
    Covid for over 2 years by following those guidelines.

    Back then they didn't know that Covid was so infective that it was
    effectively airborne and only air changes could ameliorate that.

    Was anyone really walking around thinking "Well, thank God someone did
    the research the last time we had a global pandemic to find the optimal distance was 6 feet and not 7.8"?

    The optimum distance was as far apart as possible which is why when
    things got seriously out of control we had lockdowns.

    Japan probably made the best fist of a difficult situation.
    (still a surprising proportion wearing masks at indoor venues today)

    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 18 08:27:41 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 07:26:53 -0700, john larkin <jlArbor.com> wrote:


    https://archive.is/CQzbl

    Oh, for the good old days, during Trump I.

    https://ve3ute.ca/query/flu_season_043d.jpg

    RL

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