On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

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Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

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On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside
of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

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On 1/29/25 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside
of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

Action=reaction will continue to rule, and QM won't change a thing
there. Even so, I agree we're likely to colonize other planets
eventually, though not by sending lots of people there.

As for planets /outside/ our solar system, those are yet a few
more orders of magnitude harder to reach.

Jeroen Belleman

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 23:16:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/29/25 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside
of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

The thing is, we have unidentified objects in our skys that don't obey
the edicts of Newtonian physics. Clearly someone somewhere has the
capability of making what we believe is impossible trivial. That would
suggest interplanetary travel in realistic transit times is already
being carried out and has been for a very long time.

Action=reaction will continue to rule, and QM won't change a thing
there. Even so, I agree we're likely to colonize other planets
eventually, though not by sending lots of people there.

As for planets /outside/ our solar system, those are yet a few
more orders of magnitude harder to reach.

Jeroen Belleman

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On 30/01/2025 11:18 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 23:16:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/29/25 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside
of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

The thing is, we have unidentified objects in our skys that don't obey
the edicts of Newtonian physics.

But you haven't identified one, and to the best of my knowledge, nobody
else has either. Dark matter has mass so it is expected conform to
Newtonian physics when it isn't moving at relativistic speeds.

Clearly someone somewhere has the
capability of making what we believe is impossible trivial.

Twaddle.

That would suggest interplanetary travel in realistic transit times is already
being carried out and has been for a very long time.

Only if you can't do joined up logic, and are addicted to fatuous nonsense.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On 1/30/25 01:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 23:16:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/29/25 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside
of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

The thing is, we have unidentified objects in our skys that don't obey
the edicts of Newtonian physics. Clearly someone somewhere has the
capability of making what we believe is impossible trivial. That would suggest interplanetary travel in realistic transit times is already
being carried out and has been for a very long time.

I cannot believe such claims. Stated as you do, it conflicts with my
knowledge of physics and therefore I must reject it.

Jeroen Belleman

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 10:02:34 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/30/25 01:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 23:16:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/29/25 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside >>>> of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

The thing is, we have unidentified objects in our skys that don't obey
the edicts of Newtonian physics. Clearly someone somewhere has the
capability of making what we believe is impossible trivial. That would
suggest interplanetary travel in realistic transit times is already
being carried out and has been for a very long time.

I cannot believe such claims. Stated as you do, it conflicts with my >knowledge of physics and therefore I must reject it.

You can believe whatever you wish, of course. I'm simply saying that
this phenomenon has been reported by legions of witnesses, many of
whom are commercial and military pilots and should therefore know very
well whether what they're looking at conforms to our present
understanding of physics or not.

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On 30/01/2025 9:03 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 10:02:34 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/30/25 01:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 23:16:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/29/25 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside >>>>> of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

The thing is, we have unidentified objects in our skys that don't obey
the edicts of Newtonian physics. Clearly someone somewhere has the
capability of making what we believe is impossible trivial. That would
suggest interplanetary travel in realistic transit times is already
being carried out and has been for a very long time.

I cannot believe such claims. Stated as you do, it conflicts with my
knowledge of physics and therefore I must reject it.

You can believe whatever you wish, of course. I'm simply saying that
this phenomenon has been reported by legions of witnesses, many of
whom are commercial and military pilots and should therefore know very
well whether what they're looking at conforms to our present
understanding of physics or not.

You are talking about flying saucers. People report what they think they
see, but optical effects aren't solid objects, no matter what they may
look like.

This is the kind of fatuous nonsense that you seem to be addicted to,
but more rational people don't take it seriously.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On 1/30/25 11:03, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 10:02:34 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/30/25 01:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 23:16:55 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/29/25 19:14, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:32:10 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/28/25 17:40, E.Laureti wrote:

Nothing will ever be colonized with rockets

www.asps.it/korolevtorta.jpg

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

Newton rules. The only thing they get right is that there
will never be a large-scale exodus to other planets.

Jeroen Belleman

Newton was pre-QM and 400 years ago. If we don't destroy ourselves
first, I think we'll eventually find a way to colonise planets outside >>>>> of our solar system. But that will be a long, long tme away.

The thing is, we have unidentified objects in our skys that don't obey
the edicts of Newtonian physics. Clearly someone somewhere has the
capability of making what we believe is impossible trivial. That would
suggest interplanetary travel in realistic transit times is already
being carried out and has been for a very long time.

I cannot believe such claims. Stated as you do, it conflicts with my
knowledge of physics and therefore I must reject it.

You can believe whatever you wish, of course. I'm simply saying that
this phenomenon has been reported by legions of witnesses, many of
whom are commercial and military pilots and should therefore know very
well whether what they're looking at conforms to our present
understanding of physics or not.

If I were to witness some phenomenon apparently defying the laws
of physics, I would first doubt my observation, not the laws of
physics. Our senses are so easily confused, our equipment could
so easily be faulty. It would take a much closer look and repeated
reliable observations, using different complementary means, to
make me change my mind.

Legions of witnesses --however able they may otherwise be-- of
fleeting unidentified phenomena don't cut it.

Jeroen Belleman

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