• Solder selection for general repair work

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 15 22:30:16 2024
    At long last I've completely run out of solder for electrical/electronic
    work. Last time I looked, Kester 63/37 or 50/50 were the norm, with a
    choice of rosin or acid flux. Things have changed a lot since then 8-)

    Now there are dozens of brands with at least as many compositions.
    Usage isn't very high, so a "do it all" alloy is preferable. Cost
    is probably of secondary importance.

    Anybody got a suggestion for a composition and brand? Amazon shows
    quite a few, none of them familiar to me.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 15 22:21:40 2024
    In article <vh8i1o$3k4bq$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

    At long last I've completely run out of solder for electrical/electronic work. Last time I looked, Kester 63/37 or 50/50 were the norm, with a
    choice of rosin or acid flux. Things have changed a lot since then 8-)

    Now there are dozens of brands with at least as many compositions.
    Usage isn't very high, so a "do it all" alloy is preferable. Cost
    is probably of secondary importance.

    Anybody got a suggestion for a composition and brand? Amazon shows
    quite a few, none of them familiar to me.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska





    The reason solder has changed is the enviromental nuts. Lead is very
    bad for you so it has been baned in most countries for electronics and
    water pipes. Just stick with the Kester 60/40 or better the 63/37
    rosen core for copper material. For some nonelectronic works the acid
    core is ok. Just about all the other solder is a poor subistute.

    Just to check it out I have tried several of the lead free solder for electronic work but did not feel that any of it is as good as the old
    stuff for electronic work.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Ralph Mowery on Sat Nov 16 14:50:01 2024
    Ralph Mowery <[email protected]> wrote:


    The reason solder has changed is the enviromental nuts. Lead is very
    bad for you so it has been baned in most countries for electronics and
    water pipes. Just stick with the Kester 60/40 or better the 63/37
    rosen core for copper material. For some nonelectronic works the acid
    core is ok. Just about all the other solder is a poor subistute.

    Just to check it out I have tried several of the lead free solder for electronic work but did not feel that any of it is as good as the old
    stuff for electronic work.

    Ok, that simplifies matters. I do recall that premium equipment (Tektronix oscilloscopes) used solder with a small proportion of silver. Were there
    any benefits to silver other than compatibility with the ceramic terminal strips Tektronix used? I'm thinking of strength, adhesion or wetting....

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska

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  • From UFO@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 16 19:47:56 2024
    Just about anything off the electronics production lines these days is
    PBFREE or low lead,
    high tin.

    I have used Kester a long time, I tried Indium brand solder a while back and its fine,
    cant hardly tell any difference.


    Anybody got a suggestion for a composition and brand? Amazon shows
    quite a few, none of them familiar to me.

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Nov 17 00:34:48 2024
    On 2024-11-16 09:50, [email protected] wrote:
    Ralph Mowery <[email protected]> wrote:


    The reason solder has changed is the enviromental nuts. Lead is very
    bad for you so it has been baned in most countries for electronics and
    water pipes. Just stick with the Kester 60/40 or better the 63/37
    rosen core for copper material. For some nonelectronic works the acid
    core is ok. Just about all the other solder is a poor subistute.

    Just to check it out I have tried several of the lead free solder for
    electronic work but did not feel that any of it is as good as the old
    stuff for electronic work.

    Ok, that simplifies matters. I do recall that premium equipment (Tektronix oscilloscopes) used solder with a small proportion of silver. Were there
    any benefits to silver other than compatibility with the ceramic terminal strips Tektronix used? I'm thinking of strength, adhesion or wetting....

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska


    You can still get good ol' Kester 44. It has RA flux, the more active
    version of the usual tree sap stuff, which is helpful when using old components.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Sun Nov 17 16:57:53 2024
    Phil Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

    You can still get good ol' Kester 44. It has RA flux, the more active version of the usual tree sap stuff, which is helpful when using old components.

    Is there any electrical or mechanical advantage to be had among the more
    modern formulations?

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Nov 17 22:18:49 2024
    On 2024-11-17 11:57, [email protected] wrote:
    Phil Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

    You can still get good ol' Kester 44. It has RA flux, the more active
    version of the usual tree sap stuff, which is helpful when using old
    components.

    Is there any electrical or mechanical advantage to be had among the more modern formulations?

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska


    They all conduct electricity pretty well. ;)

    Lead-free is a bit stronger mechanically, but is considerably harder to
    use by hand--its melting point is higher, and (crucially) Sn63Pb gives
    lovely shiny joints. Besides being pretty, that lets you know when
    you've got a good joint--cold joints are dull-looking.

    On the other hand, even a good Pbfree joint is dull, so you lose that
    nice visual feedback.

    Ersin Multicore is also good.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Mon Nov 18 21:53:37 2024
    Phil Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-11-17 11:57, [email protected] wrote:
    Phil Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

    You can still get good ol' Kester 44. It has RA flux, the more active
    version of the usual tree sap stuff, which is helpful when using old
    components.

    Is there any electrical or mechanical advantage to be had among the more
    modern formulations?

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska


    They all conduct electricity pretty well. ;)

    Lead-free is a bit stronger mechanically, but is considerably harder to
    use by hand--its melting point is higher, and (crucially) Sn63Pb gives
    lovely shiny joints. Besides being pretty, that lets you know when
    you've got a good joint--cold joints are dull-looking.

    On the other hand, even a good Pbfree joint is dull, so you lose that
    nice visual feedback.

    Ersin Multicore is also good.

    I was wondering if the newfangled alloys wet better or are stronger.
    Seemingly not.

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska

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