• Dave Pearce:

    From Treon Verdery@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 07:37:35 2023
    “look upon each variable as a module; and define modules that accept words by calling other modules recursively” The possibility of an automata generated context free grammar (CFG) functioning at systems that extend the chronological length/duration
    of an uncollapsed quantum state, (possibly looked upon as a math-way where CFGs could produce time intervals that cause quantum events to require different amounts (more or less amount) of observation (some interpretations of quantum mechanics) or
    different amounts of atom-to-atom interactions sufficient to decohere a quantum system (some other interpretations of quantum mechanics). Dave Pearce refers to some person who says the duration length of an unresolved quantum superposition is “
    femtoseconds” at an aqueaous chemical system like a neuron. Some technological instantiation of Context free grammars, technologically implemented as automata, could change the femtoseconds to seconds, as well as possibly effect the atom, molecule,
    or even tissue-span (like the actual physical dimensions/AMU) of the superposed amount of stuff. For Dave, bigger tissue/cyte/neurons being superposed for longer intervals eases scientific and technological research, where I perceive Dave wants to find
    the source of the source of conscious awareness (at his published at Quora version he uses “schoedinger’s neurons” as a quick memorable description); as well as new consciousness technology production.

    Thinking of Dave’s “schedinger’s neurons” idea: noting that an automata context free grammer could effect the chronological length or physical span of unresolved quantum events (UQE), what would you make it out of, and niftily, entertainingly,
    math and science-wise can you search for multi-cyte feedbacks, procedures, automata or basically computer programs at existing proteins, cytes, and tissues, including neurons?

    If they find, or technologically make, a UQE chronological interval extending automata/math relationship at proteins/cytes/tissues it could be possible to change that or link that to the naturally occuring “dwell time” of neurons, parts of neurons (
    like synapses and dendrites); the longer the interval of dwell time it is possible the experiments are easier and the technologies are easier to produce; perhaps neurons, as per Dave’s idea, might have some surveyable systemic relationships that could
    be restated as automata, or other computer-program like assemblages, and these assemblages could define the quantum unresolved time interval that these UQE last. If you find the automata/program at the neuron or its parts then you could use that computer
    science/math sourced expected interval to make experiments out of. 100 ns experiments, 1 second experiments, 24 hours experiments, all based on the math-predicted length of UQE at the CNS or neurons.

    also, what about really long computer programs or automata; could could these generate nonfinite lengths, or even multiday lengths of UQE at protein/tissues/cytes like neurons? If Dave’s “schoedinger’s neurons” Idea has value, then finding UQE
    systems with intervals of hours or days could redefine thought, pre-thought, something like the feel of the day. Beyond the causual psychological observation that the mind flits from thing to thing with metaphor:variaed lighting (a metaphor for feeling
    or sustained nonconscious perspective): Thoughts change all the time at less than 1 second intervals while often tilted with a kind of gestalt of multi-hour (apparently) noncognitive baseline of a perspective like cheerful.

    New drugs or CNS structures that change the intervals produced with CFGs or other means of effecting the UQE duration at the sentient being could create new forms of sentience. Supersentience could possibly go with more actual isness from
    technologizations like genetic modification, drugs, implants, or cytological sized computation technology objects. (a greater or different amount of isness contrasts with just feeling more isness from say, stimulant drugs or LSD).

    From Dave’s perspective, a sentience that compares p-zombies with 2018 AD humans, it is possible supersentiences based on UQE duration modifying CFG proteins/cytes (like neurons)/tissues would create beings that think we are like p-zombies in
    comparison with a supersentience’ amount of beneficial isness. Also this could have sentient AI technology applications. As previously described, things with varied and lengthy UQE, per Dave’s theory, are one more possible way to generate
    consciousness. Noting the standing wave solitons, mirrors, and atom-parabola imitation-atoms formable from energy; also noting that these can generate things like standing waves, and that standing waves of custom frequency or duration, could have
    different, varying, possibly longer UQE intervals, engineerable to imitate and improve upon those human sentience producing effects at Dave’s “schroedinger’s neurons” idea, could be a new technological way to create artifical sentience, awareness,
    isness.

    I saw a parabola as well as a circle of atoms making a nodal wave additioneffect: a new blob of charge, and the new cofocally-sourced blob of charge can act like a charged atom. Atom parabola focus chemistry: atoms as waves that can focalize; the foci
    imitate the charge of atoms, thus can effect the energetics of physical molecules, this could link or implement a parabola-focus energy workalike functioning as a halogen or other atom, to physically, chemically modify the reactivity of an actual
    molecule, the shape of a protein or the activity of a neuron). This could possibly be created at things other than neural tissue creating new technologies as well as modifications to existing technologies like semiconductors. Another possibility is that
    I perceive wikipedia says time crystals (plural rotating energy states as non-static least-energy configuations of atom groups) have been physically produced; these looping systems could loop through CFG UQE chronological and physical span adjusting
    automata, producing large, durable, technologically customizable UQE, which Dave thinks are causative of sentience. So a time crystal chemistry could be a non neural source of sentience to make artificial intelligence from.

    Thinking of atom parabolas with an artifical blob that has the charge characteristics of an actual atom without there being an actual atom there: Perhaps imitation carbon, or some nifty, even more plurally-attaching electric charge than carbon variation
    (say 20 “-“ links per virtual atom), could form polyatomic molecules; like a virtual phenyl, or a virtual dopamine, or a virtual RNA, or new hyperplural carbon-like virtual molecules or, possibly macromolecules. These could be a new kind of organic
    chemistry because they could do more, new, different things than the existing elements in combination. technologies that build chemical systems, or even possibly artificial intelligence technological generating objects could have even more possible
    engineerable variations.

    Is it possible to produce parabola-like virtual atom cofocalizers at something other than solid matter? Various gases can be spin-polarized, and spin polarized things might exhibit something like magnetic sorting or arrangement; It is just possible that
    spin-modified laser-zapped gases in a big magnet could produced ordered parabola-like virtual atom generators. A virtual atom environment as widely spaced as a gas could have enhanced chemical activity, and permit more virtual atoms to be next to each
    other for making virtual atom molecules.

    a semi-aqueous virtual atom parabola, or other shape might be producible with something like a lipid layer or bilayer. A regularly spaced grid, with somethinglike metal atoms at it as part of lipid layer or bilayer might be moisture-stable. A laser
    immobilization field could possibly cause a big million times million or billion times billion array of metal atoms at a lipid layer or lipid bilayer grid of molecules to be constrained as to place and position. That would make a large-surface area
    virtual atom technological structure.

    Water has a possibility of being arrangeable into virtual-atom producing structures or shapes. A laser immobilization field could possibly cause a big million times million or billion times billion array of water molecules to be constrained as to place
    and position, they would then be placed in parabolas or other shapes to produce virtual atoms to make things with and do chemistry.

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