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Hi Tony,
Your critter looks to be possibly Swammerdamia caesiella. The UK Dissection Group appears to be shut down for now but their images are on MPG. The answer to your other question is the aedeagus is very long! but still not as long as the ductus bursae.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu_species.php-3Fhodges-3D2413&d=AwIFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=tVAKMFPe3UCcsMWUFXo0FeX0xe1JUAj77B74DAI3DKI&m=8nRoD3gYoBUl6OkMXGPbOWT0nDmTuH1O9KqYSoVLL_g&s=j_
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Best regards, Rich
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Plant Program
Oregon Dept. of Agriculture
635 Capitol St. NE
Salem, OR 97301
503-986-6461
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On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Tony Thomas <
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caesiella. The UK Dissection Group appears to be shut down for now but their images are on MPG. The answer to your other question is the aedeagus is very long! but still not as long as the ductus bursae.</div><div><a href="
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http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=2413</a></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards, Rich</div><div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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