On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:16:42 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?Well, maybe it's a really tiny star.
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Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?
https://news.binodon24live.com/nasa-has-discovered-a-water-planet-100-million-light-years-away-from-earth-that-completes-an-orbit-of-its-star-every-11-days/
Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?
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https://news.binodon24live.com/nasa-has-discovered-a-water-planet-100-million-light-years-away-from-earth-that-completes-an-orbit-of-its-star-every-11-days/
Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?
???
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:16:40 -0800 (PST),
wrote: >https://news.binodon24live.com/nasa-has-discovered-a-water-planet-100-million-light-years-away-from-earth-that-completes-an-orbit-of-its-star-every-11-days/
Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?
???
It's orbiting an M4 dwarf, 3185 K. Puts the temperature at the planet
around 50 C. It's only 100 ly away, so not hard to detect even with a
very small aperture.
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:16:40 -0800 (PST),
wrote: >https://news.binodon24live.com/nasa-has-discovered-a-water-planet-100-million-light-years-away-from-earth-that-completes-an-orbit-of-its-star-every-11-days/
Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?
???
It's orbiting an M4 dwarf, 3185 K. Puts the temperature at the planet
around 50 C. It's only 100 ly away, so not hard to detect even with a
very small aperture.
This would be achieved using one of the fastest space crafts ever developed, the Voyager 1 space probe, travelling at its maximum velocity of 62,140 kph.<<It would take roughly 1,736,809 years for humans to travel 100 light years away from our solar system.
On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:28:17?PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:16:40 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
https://news.binodon24live.com/nasa-has-discovered-a-water-planet-100-million-light-years-away-from-earth-that-completes-an-orbit-of-its-star-every-11-days/
Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?
???
It's orbiting an M4 dwarf, 3185 K. Puts the temperature at the planet
around 50 C. It's only 100 ly away, so not hard to detect even with a
very small aperture.
How small aperture?
4"?
On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:16:42 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
Planet has 11 days orbit around a star and has water?
Well, maybe it's a really tiny star.
It would take roughly 1,736,809 years for humans to
travel 100 light years away from our solar system.
This would be achieved using one of the fastest space
crafts ever developed, the Voyager 1 space probe, travelling
at its maximum velocity of 62,140 kph.
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to act
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000
years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, we
could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<[email protected]> wrote:
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to act
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000
years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, weI'm skeptical that we can build a civilization that would last that
could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
long, though. Shame if there were nobody here who remembered the probe existed or knew how to receive its information.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:00:48?PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<[email protected]> wrote:
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to actI'm skeptical that we can build a civilization that would last that
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000
years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, we
could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
long, though. Shame if there were nobody here who remembered the probe
existed or knew how to receive its information.
You are full of all kinds of crud today...
There are organizations that have been around for a long time even as governments and nations have come and gone.
Roman Catholic Church, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto, numerous colleges and universities have staying power and any or all of them could nurture and preserve knowledge of a long-duration space mission and be prepared to receive the results sent back to Earth.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:39:40 -0800 (PST), W <[email protected]>Earth.
wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:00:48?PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<[email protected]> wrote:
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to actI'm skeptical that we can build a civilization that would last that
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000
years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, we
could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
long, though. Shame if there were nobody here who remembered the probe
existed or knew how to receive its information.
You are full of all kinds of crud today...
There are organizations that have been around for a long time even as governments and nations have come and gone.
Roman Catholic Church, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto, numerous colleges and universities have staying power and any or all of them could nurture and preserve knowledge of a long-duration space mission and be prepared to receive the results sent back to
Organizations are not civilizations. You think NASA will be here after
the U.S. collapses in a few years, along with the developed world?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 04:20:58 -0700 (PDT), W <[email protected]>Earth.
wrote:
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 10:42:57?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:39:40 -0800 (PST), W <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:00:48?PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<[email protected]> wrote:
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to actI'm skeptical that we can build a civilization that would last that
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000
years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, we
could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
long, though. Shame if there were nobody here who remembered the probe >> >> existed or knew how to receive its information.
You are full of all kinds of crud today...
There are organizations that have been around for a long time even as governments and nations have come and gone.
Roman Catholic Church, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto, numerous colleges and universities have staying power and any or all of them could nurture and preserve knowledge of a long-duration space mission and be prepared to receive the results sent back to
Organizations are not civilizations. You think NASA will be here after
the U.S. collapses in a few years, along with the developed world?
NASA is unlikely to launch an interstellar probe anytime soon, so your question is entirely nonsensical. The organization that would send out such a probe does not need to be the same one that receives the results hundreds of years later.NASA was a rhetorical example. The point is, we have no organizations
that are likely to be here in a few hundred years.
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 10:42:57?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:Earth.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:39:40 -0800 (PST), W <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:00:48?PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<[email protected]> wrote:
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to actI'm skeptical that we can build a civilization that would last that
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000
years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, we
could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
long, though. Shame if there were nobody here who remembered the probe
existed or knew how to receive its information.
You are full of all kinds of crud today...
There are organizations that have been around for a long time even as governments and nations have come and gone.
Roman Catholic Church, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto, numerous colleges and universities have staying power and any or all of them could nurture and preserve knowledge of a long-duration space mission and be prepared to receive the results sent back to
Organizations are not civilizations. You think NASA will be here after
the U.S. collapses in a few years, along with the developed world?
NASA is unlikely to launch an interstellar probe anytime soon, so your question is entirely nonsensical. The organization that would send out such a probe does not need to be the same one that receives the results hundreds of years later.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 10:43:09?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:Earth.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 04:20:58 -0700 (PDT), W <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 10:42:57?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:39:40 -0800 (PST), W <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:00:48?PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<[email protected]> wrote:
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to actI'm skeptical that we can build a civilization that would last that
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000
years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, we
could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
long, though. Shame if there were nobody here who remembered the probe >> >> >> existed or knew how to receive its information.
You are full of all kinds of crud today...
There are organizations that have been around for a long time even as governments and nations have come and gone.
Roman Catholic Church, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto, numerous colleges and universities have staying power and any or all of them could nurture and preserve knowledge of a long-duration space mission and be prepared to receive the results sent back to
NASA was a rhetorical example. The point is, we have no organizationsOrganizations are not civilizations. You think NASA will be here after
the U.S. collapses in a few years, along with the developed world?
NASA is unlikely to launch an interstellar probe anytime soon, so your question is entirely nonsensical. The organization that would send out such a probe does not need to be the same one that receives the results hundreds of years later.
that are likely to be here in a few hundred years.
You have no evidence to support such a ridiculous assertion.
Whereas, I gave examples of several organizations that have been around for a while and that will continue to be around.
Organizations are not civilizations. You think NASA will be here after
the U.S. collapses in a few years, along with the developed world?
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 8:42:57?AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:
Organizations are not civilizations. You think NASA will be here after
the U.S. collapses in a few years, along with the developed world?
Maybe someone in Brazil will know the radio frequencies to use?
More importantly, though, it clearly is very much in the interest of
people living in the developed world not to allow it to collapse. So
I would expect some effort to be made to avoid that.
Of course, pessimism is possible. Trump, or someone like him, could
be elected in 2024. Unchecked global warming could eventually have >consequences that affect the developed world seriously, and these
might result not in a reaction against the political forces responsible
for causing it, but instead, seemingly perversely, in the parties that tried >to prevent the disaster being blamed - as they're less appealilng to >irrational people.
And in the U.S., at least, the crazy people own more guns.
However, clearly the people with some sense also have more brains.
They can, therefore, if necessary, start using them to outwit the
other ones tactically. Giving up hope is not a winning strategy,
however realistic it may seem.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:07:48 -0700 (PDT), W <[email protected]>to Earth.
wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 10:43:09?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 04:20:58 -0700 (PDT), W <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 10:42:57?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:39:40 -0800 (PST), W <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:00:48?PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 08:08:24 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<[email protected]> wrote:
So one of those ships with a stockpile of H-bombs to actI'm skeptical that we can build a civilization that would last that >> >> >> long, though. Shame if there were nobody here who remembered the probe
on a giant pusher plate, only reaching the maximum speed at
the halfway point of the journey, would ideally take "only" 20,000 >> >> >> >years, rather than 1,700,000 years.
Still hardly worth the trip. But with that kind of technology, we >> >> >> >could reach Proxima Centauri b in a mere 800 years. We _might_
be able to build a spaceship that could last that long.
existed or knew how to receive its information.
You are full of all kinds of crud today...
There are organizations that have been around for a long time even as governments and nations have come and gone.
Roman Catholic Church, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto, numerous colleges and universities have staying power and any or all of them could nurture and preserve knowledge of a long-duration space mission and be prepared to receive the results sent back
NASA was a rhetorical example. The point is, we have no organizationsOrganizations are not civilizations. You think NASA will be here after >> >> the U.S. collapses in a few years, along with the developed world?
NASA is unlikely to launch an interstellar probe anytime soon, so your question is entirely nonsensical. The organization that would send out such a probe does not need to be the same one that receives the results hundreds of years later.
that are likely to be here in a few hundred years.
You have no evidence to support such a ridiculous assertion.
Whereas, I gave examples of several organizations that have been around for a while and that will continue to be around.They are organizations based on foolish ideas and controlling people.
Not advancing knowledge and managing high technology. We are on the
edge now of ecological collapse, which is likely to result in the
collapse of our civilizations, and that will certainly take with it
the sort of organizations that could manage a several hundred year
high tech space project!
I don't really care. We had our chance. IMO it is climate change that
will take us down. Don't really see any recovery at this point, and
the collapse of ecosystems will strain our society beyond its ability
to function in the way it does. Dark ages are ahead.
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 12:24:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
I don't really care. We had our chance. IMO it is climate change that
will take us down. Don't really see any recovery at this point, and
the collapse of ecosystems will strain our society beyond its ability
to function in the way it does. Dark ages are ahead.
The irony. You are not reflecting on how much YOU have contributed to this alleged "collapse," as you call it.
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 02:59:49 -0700 (PDT), W <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 12:24:48?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
I don't really care. We had our chance. IMO it is climate change that
will take us down. Don't really see any recovery at this point, and
the collapse of ecosystems will strain our society beyond its ability
to function in the way it does. Dark ages are ahead.
The irony. You are not reflecting on how much YOU have contributed to this alleged "collapse," as you call it.My contribution has been far below average. It has been reasonable.
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