• C/2022E3(ZTF) Observation

    From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 31 00:52:29 2023
    Using my 50 mm bino, found this comet 5.5 mag, about 12 deg above Polaris at 11:30 pm.
    Half the Moon is out, I can only see a fuzzy smudge, barely visible, no color. Lots of light pollution here from the city, idiot neighbors leaving lights on all night, like if electricity is free.
    Unbelievable how ignorant people are about light pollution and the world is fighting wars for cheap energy, so stupid people can waste more!
    There's one in Ukraine right now, already 200k people dead.
    I'll try observing tomorrow or early morning again, hope I see it better.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 31 07:45:55 2023
    On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 00:52:29 -0800 (PST), StarDust <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Using my 50 mm bino, found this comet 5.5 mag, about 12 deg above Polaris at 11:30 pm.
    Half the Moon is out, I can only see a fuzzy smudge, barely visible, no color. >Lots of light pollution here from the city, idiot neighbors leaving lights on all night, like if electricity is free.
    Unbelievable how ignorant people are about light pollution and the world is fighting wars for cheap energy, so stupid people can waste more!
    There's one in Ukraine right now, already 200k people dead.
    I'll try observing tomorrow or early morning again, hope I see it better.

    I'm observing from very dark skies. It is barely visible naked eye
    once found with binoculars. Telescopically, it is a fuzzy gray spot.
    It does not show color to the eye under any skies. It does not show
    much elongation to the eye, under any skies.

    Unless you're into the challenge of faint fuzzies, this is a
    photographic object, not a visual one.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to StarDust on Tue Jan 31 07:54:49 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:20:36 AM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:

    Obviously, another blotted media information, green, naked eye comet, very bright, bla-bla!
    I always fall for it.

    Every so often a comet really does live up to or exceed expectations.

    If they weren't in the news some such comets will be missed.

    And this one isn't a bad comet either.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Tue Jan 31 07:20:33 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:45:58 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 00:52:29 -0800 (PST), StarDust
    wrote:
    Using my 50 mm bino, found this comet 5.5 mag, about 12 deg above Polaris at 11:30 pm.
    Half the Moon is out, I can only see a fuzzy smudge, barely visible, no color.
    Lots of light pollution here from the city, idiot neighbors leaving lights on all night, like if electricity is free.
    Unbelievable how ignorant people are about light pollution and the world is fighting wars for cheap energy, so stupid people can waste more!
    There's one in Ukraine right now, already 200k people dead.
    I'll try observing tomorrow or early morning again, hope I see it better. I'm observing from very dark skies. It is barely visible naked eye
    once found with binoculars. Telescopically, it is a fuzzy gray spot.
    It does not show color to the eye under any skies. It does not show
    much elongation to the eye, under any skies.

    Unless you're into the challenge of faint fuzzies, this is a
    photographic object, not a visual one.

    Obviously, another blotted media information, green, naked eye comet, very bright, bla-bla!
    I always fall for it.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 31 10:37:34 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:54:51 AM UTC-8, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:20:36 AM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:

    Obviously, another blotted media information, green, naked eye comet, very bright, bla-bla!
    I always fall for it.
    Every so often a comet really does live up to or exceed expectations.

    If they weren't in the news some such comets will be missed.

    And this one isn't a bad comet either.

    Maybe in a large aperture telescope looks better?
    But it was advertised as a naked eye comet or a binocular easy seen object.
    To me, very disappointing !

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 31 15:43:00 2023
    On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 10:37:34 -0800 (PST), StarDust <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:54:51 AM UTC-8, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:20:36 AM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:

    Obviously, another blotted media information, green, naked eye comet, very bright, bla-bla!
    I always fall for it.
    Every so often a comet really does live up to or exceed expectations.

    If they weren't in the news some such comets will be missed.

    And this one isn't a bad comet either.

    Maybe in a large aperture telescope looks better?
    But it was advertised as a naked eye comet or a binocular easy seen object. >To me, very disappointing !

    Aperture never makes anything brighter. It only allows you to see it
    larger, and this object is already large and only reasonably viewed at
    low magnification.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Thu Feb 2 20:06:10 2023
    On 31/01/2023 22:43, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 10:37:34 -0800 (PST), StarDust <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:54:51 AM UTC-8, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:20:36 AM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:

    Obviously, another blotted media information, green, naked eye comet, very bright, bla-bla!
    I always fall for it.

    Photographically it is as they described but nowhere near bright enough
    to see in colour (by the sounds of it pretty diffuse and hard to spot
    even in dark skies). I wonder if mine are even dark enough.

    Every so often a comet really does live up to or exceed expectations.

    If they weren't in the news some such comets will be missed.

    And this one isn't a bad comet either.

    Maybe in a large aperture telescope looks better?
    But it was advertised as a naked eye comet or a binocular easy seen object. >> To me, very disappointing !

    Aperture never makes anything brighter. It only allows you to see it
    larger, and this object is already large and only reasonably viewed at
    low magnification.

    A bit like M33 then - bright on paper but very low surface brightness. I
    reckon to see it clearly in binoculars M31 has to be naked eye visible.

    We had 8/8 thick solid cloud last night. Maybe tonight will be better.

    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Thu Feb 2 14:39:23 2023
    On Thu, 2 Feb 2023 20:06:10 +0000, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    Photographically it is as they described but nowhere near bright enough
    to see in colour (by the sounds of it pretty diffuse and hard to spot
    even in dark skies). I wonder if mine are even dark enough.

    My skies have been dark enough that I can see it naked eye. No color.
    Likewise through binoculars. (And yes... you'd never see this unless
    you know exactly where to look, and probably find it first with
    binoculars and then carefully scan the same area without them.)

    Aperture never makes anything brighter. It only allows you to see it
    larger, and this object is already large and only reasonably viewed at
    low magnification.

    A bit like M33 then - bright on paper but very low surface brightness. I >reckon to see it clearly in binoculars M31 has to be naked eye visible.

    Yes. Through any telescopic system, you can only reach the same
    surface brightness as you get with the naked eye. Usually you'll get
    less. However, when you make it bigger, so it covers more of the
    retina, you increase the signal, and it lets us see things we might
    not see at less magnification.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Thu Feb 2 18:41:37 2023
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:06:13 PM UTC-8, Martin Brown wrote:
    On 31/01/2023 22:43, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 10:37:34 -0800 (PST),

    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:54:51 AM UTC-8, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:20:36 AM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:

    Obviously, another blotted media information, green, naked eye comet, very bright, bla-bla!
    I always fall for it.
    Photographically it is as they described but nowhere near bright enough
    to see in colour (by the sounds of it pretty diffuse and hard to spot
    even in dark skies). I wonder if mine are even dark enough.
    Every so often a comet really does live up to or exceed expectations.

    If they weren't in the news some such comets will be missed.

    And this one isn't a bad comet either.

    Maybe in a large aperture telescope looks better?
    But it was advertised as a naked eye comet or a binocular easy seen object.
    To me, very disappointing !

    Aperture never makes anything brighter. It only allows you to see it larger, and this object is already large and only reasonably viewed at
    low magnification.
    A bit like M33 then - bright on paper but very low surface brightness. I reckon to see it clearly in binoculars M31 has to be naked eye visible.

    We had 8/8 thick solid cloud last night. Maybe tonight will be better.

    --
    Martin Brown

    It's been cloudy here in California too, next 3 days rain is in the forecast, starting tonight!
    So, no comet for me!

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