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    From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 3 12:48:05 2022
    BBC News - Nasa: Artemis Moon rocket second launch attempt called off https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62758482

    NASA needs to get it's s**** together!

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to StarDust on Sat Sep 3 22:30:57 2022
    On 03/09/2022 20:48, StarDust wrote:
    BBC News - Nasa: Artemis Moon rocket second launch attempt called off https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62758482

    NASA needs to get it's s**** together!

    I have a lot of sympathy for NASA's problems here.

    Bulk fuel tanks for cryogenic LH2 fuel change their dimensions very significantly and hydrogen makes steel go brittle in short order. It can diffuse into the metal matrix.

    Sad news is if they miss this next launch window then it will have to go
    right back to the starting blocks and have various battery checks/swaps.

    Space flight is difficult and dangerous. It should be left to robotics
    unless and until we find something that our latest robots cannot handle.

    I am with Martin Rees the UK Astronomer Royal on this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/jul/26/martin-rees-space

    I would personally still like to see one tourist visit to one of the
    later Apollo sites just to rub conspiracy theorists noses in it.

    The Apollo 11 landing site should be left untouched though.

    --
    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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  • From Ninapenda Jibini@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Sat Sep 3 22:37:54 2022
    Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in news:tf0h2j$tcv$[email protected]:

    I would personally still like to see one tourist visit to one of
    the later Apollo sites just to rub conspiracy theorists noses in
    it.

    Do you really believe that isn't part of the plan on the part of one
    or more of the people running private launch companies? It's hard to
    imagine either Musk or Bezos not being arrogant enough to believe
    it's their divine right to do so (and Bezos will leave billboard for
    Amazon behind).

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Sat Sep 3 18:56:22 2022
    On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 22:30:57 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    I would personally still like to see one tourist visit to one of the
    later Apollo sites just to rub conspiracy theorists noses in it.

    Wouldn't change anything. The conspiracy theorists would just claim
    the later visit was faked, too.

    The only way to really convince them is to send THEM there to see it.
    And indeed, we'd need to insist they remove their helmets, just to
    make sure they aren't being fooled by a fancy heads-up display.

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Sat Sep 3 22:31:54 2022
    On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 5:56:26 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 22:30:57 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    I would personally still like to see one tourist visit to one of the
    later Apollo sites just to rub conspiracy theorists noses in it.
    Wouldn't change anything. The conspiracy theorists would just claim
    the later visit was faked, too.

    The only way to really convince them is to send THEM there to see it.
    And indeed, we'd need to insist they remove their helmets, just to
    make sure they aren't being fooled by a fancy heads-up display.

    😏

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Sun Sep 4 06:11:14 2022
    On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 6:56:26 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

    And indeed, we'd need to insist they remove their helmets, just to
    make sure they aren't being fooled by a fancy heads-up display.

    I'm afraid that would leave them without minds to change.

    Of course, I realize that it might be claimed that this wouldn't
    be a change in the situation in that respect.

    John Savard

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