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  • Mercury in direct motion

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 7 02:19:02 2022
    https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

    In a week or so (scroll the dates forward), Mercury will pass behind the Sun moving from right to left and dazzling compared to its appearance as it passes from left to right between the central Sun and slower moving Earth-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    The direct/retrograde motions of the slower moving planets are gauged against a stationary field of stars and the working principles of the first heliostatic researchers like Copernicus.

    https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100613.html

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 11:45:11 2022
    Mercury is presently within range of the C3 camera which tracks with the Earth through space while being free of any daily rotational effects-

    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    The observers see things as they really exists with the camera's focus on the central/stationary Sun while the background stars change position relative to the orbital plane as a function of the orbital motion of the Earth.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 19 08:49:47 2022
    Mercury has moved from right to left of the central Sun as seen from a slower moving Earth and therefore from a morning appearance to a twilight appearance soon enough.

    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    There is also a CME event.

    I could understand the difficulty for the original heliostatic researchers as all observations were reduced to diagrammatic expressions and would have attracted only a small audience, however, no such difficulty exists today so that it is now easily
    observable how direct/retrograde motions are partitioned by different uses of frameworks insofar as the slower moving planets use a stationary field of background stars-

    https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap011220.html

    It is wonderful keeping the company of those astronomers who just didn't have the observations to distinguish the motions of the planets in a Sun-centred system in two different ways-

    "Now what is said here of Jupiter is to be understood of Saturn and Mars also. In Saturn these retrogressions are somewhat more frequent than in Jupiter, because its motion is slower than Jupiter's, so that the Earth overtakes it in a shorter time. In
    Mars they are rarer, its motion being faster than that of Jupiter, so that the Earth spends more time in catching up with it. Next, as to Venus and Mercury, whose circles are included within that of the Earth, stoppings and retrograde motions appear in
    them also, due not to any motion that really exists in them, but to the annual motion of the Earth. This is acutely demonstrated by Copernicus . " Galileo

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 24 02:51:29 2022
    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    A magnificent CME ends the spectacle where Mercury is farthest from the Earth in our mutual orbit around our parent/central star.

    Like everything else, energy is our Eternal delight and we enjoy our ability to appreciate that we are part of the spectacle rather than just observers of it even if we discover it later in life.

    The C3 camera will go quiet for a while, although Mercury will continue to run back and forth with its own particular traits just as all planets coming within range of the satellite possess individual characteristics as seen from a moving Earth.

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 8 23:48:33 2023
    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    The faster-moving Mercury is now passing behind the central star moving from right to left while showing its bright hemisphere to us.

    All are welcome to engage with the time-lapse and the many different perspectives, which are new to observers as they happen presently-

    https://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem

    The satellite tracking with the Earth introduces observers to the change in the position of the stars parallel to the orbital plane, as normally, this observation is swamped by the daily change in the position of the stars. Everything else follows from
    the perspective of a central Sun and the motions of the Earth and other planets around this star that makes all life possible along with the motions of the Earth.

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  • From Mike Collins@21:1/5 to Gerald Kelleher on Thu Mar 9 13:50:19 2023
    On Thursday, 9 March 2023 at 07:48:36 UTC, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    The faster-moving Mercury is now passing behind the central star moving from right to left while showing its bright hemisphere to us.

    All are welcome to engage with the time-lapse and the many different perspectives, which are new to observers as they happen presently-

    https://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem

    The satellite tracking with the Earth introduces observers to the change in the position of the stars parallel to the orbital plane, as normally, this observation is swamped by the daily change in the position of the stars. Everything else follows from
    the perspective of a central Sun and the motions of the Earth and other planets around this star that makes all life possible along with the motions of the Earth.
    Click on your Sky Live link. Put your view perpendicular to the orbital plane and animate. You will see that just as Newton wrote there are no retrogrades from the the Sun

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Thu Mar 9 14:10:51 2023
    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 9:50:21 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
    On Thursday, 9 March 2023 at 07:48:36 UTC, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    The faster-moving Mercury is now passing behind the central star moving from right to left while showing its bright hemisphere to us.

    All are welcome to engage with the time-lapse and the many different perspectives, which are new to observers as they happen presently-

    https://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem

    The satellite tracking with the Earth introduces observers to the change in the position of the stars parallel to the orbital plane, as normally, this observation is swamped by the daily change in the position of the stars. Everything else follows
    from the perspective of a central Sun and the motions of the Earth and other planets around this star that makes all life possible along with the motions of the Earth.
    Click on your Sky Live link. Put your view perpendicular to the orbital plane and animate. You will see that just as Newton wrote there are no retrogrades from the the Sun

    These days it is about modifying the direct/retrograde resolutions of Copernicus and Galileo as they had no way to partition the resolution depending on whether the planets move faster of slower than the motion of the Earth.

    " Now what is said here of Jupiter is to be understood of Saturn and Mars also. In Saturn, these retrogressions are somewhat more frequent than in Jupiter, because its motion is slower than Jupiter's so the Earth overtakes it in a shorter time. In Mars
    they are rarer, its motion being faster than that of Jupiter, so the Earth spends more time in catching up with it. Next, as to Venus and Mercury, whose circles are included within that of the Earth, stoppings and retrograde motions appear in them also,
    due not to any motion that really exists in them but to the annual motion of the Earth. This is acutely demonstrated by Copernicus . . ." Galileo, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, 1642

    https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

    When Jupiter comes into view in direct motion shortly, it will be seen to move from left to right as it moves slower than the Earth, whereas Mercury move faster than the Earth, so will always move from right to left when on the opposite side of the solar
    system to the slower-moving Earth in direct motion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    Venus and Mercury still appear in retrograde motion when seen from the slower-moving Earth as those two planets pass between the central star and our planet.

    Why would you choose evil over goodness that anyone can understand and particularly those who are interested in solar system research?. Spirit and Inspiration are one and the same, so anyone who denies their own ability to be inspired and inspiring
    hates God and Universal creation. The Trinity is the connection between the individual and Universal without an intermediary, which is why I come here and make people aware of what they can perceive as the true experience of Christ and Christianity.





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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 25 15:36:47 2023
    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    Venus is gorgeous out there at the moment as it makes its final approach to overtaking the Earth and will be visible towards the end of next month within range of the camera. In old terms, it will be in retrograde motion as it moves faster than the
    annual change in the position of the stars insofar as that is a product of the Earth's orbital motion.

    The physics community always thought or perhaps never knew that Isaac Newton created the idea of absolute/relative space and motion in his idiosyncratic version of direct/retrograde motions as a resolution and at complete variance with the original
    resolution.

    "For to the Earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the Sun they are
    always seen direct,..." Newton

    The emergence of early 20th-century relativity did not help matters as the late 17th-century version was a step outside interpretative astronomy and how it was practised in the era of Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo. Practitioners of Newton's experimental
    agenda never had a clue what those terms represented so today, even when it has been explained in great detail, few people have an idea of the relevance of anything let alone one thing.

    It would seem like throwing good information after bad but that was never the purpose of this information sharing.

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