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  • Re: Homo sapiens reached the higher latitudes of Europe by 45,000 years

    From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to JTEM is so reasonable on Tue Feb 20 20:35:48 2024
    JTEM is so reasonable wrote:

    This is a very, Very, VERY old subject of argument.

    Seems impossible that any so called "Moderns" after 50k years
    ago were already hybrids. They met in the middle east.

    "Dah."

    So any mixing happened there. They were already hybrids when
    they entered Europe.

    As for Europe, Wolpoff showed physical evidence for hybridization
    well beyond that.

    The point is that you don't look down at South Africa at 45k years
    ago and see a lot of Cor Magnon..or any. They ARE the hybrid!

    https://youtu.be/FlR22hcjp_w?feature=shared&t=121

    There. The physical evidence never supported your nonsense.
    erectus in South Africa around 2mya

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans

    The multiregional hypothesis is not currently the
    most accepted theory of modern human origin among
    scientists. "The African replacement model has
    gained the widest acceptance owing mainly to
    genetic data (particularly mitochondrial DNA)
    from existing populations. This model is consistent
    with the realization that modern humans cannot be
    classified into subspecies or races, and it
    recognizes that all populations of present-day
    humans share the same potential."[3] The African
    replacement model is also known as the "Out of
    Africa" theory. See also, "The 'out of Africa'
    model is currently the most widely accepted model.
    It proposes that Homo sapiens evolved in Africa
    before migrating across the world."[4] And: "The
    primary competing scientific hypothesis is
    currently recent African origin of modern humans,
    which proposes that modern humans arose as a new
    species in Africa around 100-200,000 years ago,
    moving out of Africa around 50-60,000 years ago
    to replace existing human species such as Homo
    erectus and the Neanderthals without
    interbreeding.[5][6][7][8] This differs from the
    multiregional hypothesis in that the multiregional
    model predicts interbreeding with preexisting
    local human populations in any such migration."

    Maybe your space aliens helped them ;)

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to JTEM is so reasonable on Fri Feb 23 14:57:57 2024
    JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    The multiregional hypothesis is not currently the
    most accepted theory of modern human origin among
    scientists.

    Interbreeding was widely & quite loudly denounced, even though
    the evidence was quite clear generations ago, and even after
    Trinkaus put the matter to rest with his work. It was still
    popularly believed AND DEFENDED that there was no interbreeding.

    The fact is that we do have different populations. Period.

    Utterly irrelevant at thse recent dates.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans



    "The African replacement model has
    gained the widest acceptance owing mainly to
    genetic data (particularly mitochondrial DNA)

    I've explained this to you and others so many times that I can
    guarantee that you will read almost nothing and understand
    even less:

    Modern Europeans haven't been in places like South America
    and Africa for very long, in terms of human origins, yet they
    have already completely swamped the DNA of many a local
    dog breed, including the Pharaoh Hound of Egypt...

    Yet, when the exact same pattern pattern emerges in human
    DNA, you insist that it proves the classic "Replacement"
    model.

    Wow.

    Talk about "Dogmatic"... Sheesh!

    You certainly are.

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