Here:

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/705489318794362880

We all know that Aquatic Ape is right!

The USDA recommends 500mg of DHA per day, and
most people fall far short of that. Switching to this
milk would be a good way to notch up your intake a
little.

They claim 38mg per serving.

Would be a godsend for picky kids. Mx chocolate milk
with this, or pour it over their Frosted Flakes... sneak in
a little brain food.



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Op woensdag 4 januari 2023 om 05:47:28 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/705489318794362880
We all know that Aquatic Ape is right!

Yes, of course!
It's difficult to understand that there are still imbeciles who believe their Pleisto- or even Pliocene ancestors ran over savannas after antelopes.
The term "aq.ape" is not wrong perhaps, but can indeed be confusing for such simple-minded kudu-runners.

Traditional PA is incredibly wrong in believing e.g.
-that apiths are human ancestors: bonobos, chimps, high-& lowland gorillas have 0 fossil relatives ITO: all hominid fossils ITO are closer relatives of Homo than of G or P. Don't they see how statistically impossible that is??
-that these apiths ran after antelopes over savannas... sweating water+salt!! :-DDD
-that flat feet are an adaptation to run after antelopes,
-etc.etc.etc.
Stupid imbeciles!
Unscientific anthropo- & afrocentric prejudices.

The first Homo fossil came from Java!

Plio-Pleist.Homo simply followed the Ind.Ocean coasts: pachyosteosclerosis (as in H.erectus) is *only* seen in slow+shallow-diving tetrapods.
Big nose, large lungs, large brains (DHA), flat feet, broad pelvis, dorso-ventrally flattened femora, long low brain-skulls, island colonizations etc.etc.:
only imbeciles deny early-Pleist.Homo regularly dived, most likely for shellfish.

Google "human evolution Verhaegen". :-)

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[email protected] wrote:

Traditional PA is incredibly wrong in believing e.g.
-that apiths are human ancestors: bonobos, chimps, high-& lowland gorillas have 0 fossil
relatives ITO: all hominid fossils ITO are closer relatives of Homo than of G or P. Don't
they see how statistically impossible that is??

I see it the other way around.

They are not ancestors to the human line, they are descendants.

Their ancestors where the same Waterside population that we
descend from, only they broke away too soon, pushed inland,
spread out before competition with later arrivals drove them to
extinction everywhere but the forests.

Chimps definitely arose AFTER bipedalism. Gorillas may have,
I would argue that they did. They were well on their way to
becoming big brained, tool making, upright walking hominids
when they moved inland, subjecting themselves to very different
selective pressures... very different genetic priorities...

The first Homo fossil came from Java!

i suspect that..

#1. Primates, Monkeys came from the Americas.

#2. Apes evolved in Eurasia.

#3. Homo evolved in Southeast Asia or Oceania.

#4. Why we say "Out of Africa" is because, after Toba, they
were the first group to bounce back. They themselves
originated from a group that migrated into Africa from
Eurasia, and by then they were ALL hybrids anyway, but
a sexually selected group in Africa was the "Winner" after
Toba. They recovered first, began to fill in the vacuum.

I'm not a geneticist, I hate DNA, up until more recent years
it honestly wasn't very good "Evidence." They weren't good
at recovering it at all, they weren't good at screening for
contamination and they imposed some pretty idiotic
assumptions on it.. not the least of which was the molecular
clock.

So I missed years & years of advancements, I admit it. But...

If everything they tell us about mtDNA is true, if points to an
origins outside of Africa. For modern man, that is.

Compare the age of any supposed "Eve" mtDNA lineage to
Bonobos:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414932/

The fact is, mtDNA is under selective pressure. And if you
stay put, keep to a relatively stable environment then your
mtDNA isn't under much pressure to change. Leave, so hiking
to Eurasia though and encounter new environments, new
climates, new foods -- new selective pressures.

So Bonobos haven't been under a lot of selective pressure but
humans have. That selective pressure is in Eurasia. So given
the relatively young age of Mitochondrial Eve, that points towards
a Eurasia origins.









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Op donderdag 5 januari 2023 om 13:19:56 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

[email protected] wrote:

Traditional PA is incredibly wrong in believing e.g.
-that apiths are human ancestors: bonobos, chimps, high-& lowland gorillas have 0 fossil
relatives ITO: all hominid fossils ITO are closer relatives of Homo than of G or P. Don't
they see how statistically impossible that is??

I see it the other way around. They are not ancestors to the human line, they are descendants.

The Homo line began when H & P split, c 5 Ma. HP & Gorilla split 8 or 7 Ma. Detailed comparisons show
-afarensis & boisei resembled extant G > H or P,
-africanus & robustus resembled extant P > H or G.
The earliest undoubted Homo are found in SE.Asia,
their anatomy (esp. POS, but also all the rest) shows they were slow+shallow divers.
Ape & apith anatomy shows Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were aquarboreal.

What happened?
Miocene hominids (aquarboreal) lived in the incipient swamp forests of the Red Sea.
Gorilla & HP split when G followed the incipient Rift ->Afar (northern EARS) ->Lucy etc.
About 5 Ma (perhaps exactly 5.3 Ma: Zanclean flood), the Red Sea opened into the Ind.Ocean.
-Homo went left: S.Asian coastal forests ->Java etc. ->shallow-diving only c 2 Ma? = AAT s.s.?
-Pan went right: E.Afr.coastal forests -> southern EARS -> Sterkfontein Taung etc.

Later in the Pleistocene:
-Homo littoral diving->more wading->more walking,
-P // G in parallel ->drier forests ->knuckle-walking in //.

Simple & (bio)logical, no?

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Their ancestors where the same Waterside population that we
descend from, only they broke away too soon, pushed inland,
spread out before competition with later arrivals drove them to
extinction everywhere but the forests.

Chimps definitely arose AFTER bipedalism.

In a sense: after aquarborealism.

Gorillas may have,
I would argue that they did. They were well on their way to
becoming big brained, tool making, upright walking hominids
when they moved inland, subjecting themselves to very different
selective pressures... very different genetic priorities...

The first Homo fossil came from Java!

i suspect that..
#1. Primates, Monkeys came from the Americas.
#2. Apes evolved in Eurasia.
#3. Homo evolved in Southeast Asia or Oceania.

#1. Geology: S.America/Africa split = Platy-/Catarrhini??
#2. IMO when India approached S-Asia c 30 Ma = island fm + coastal forests: aquarboreal adaptations
#3. H & P split in the Gulf c 5 Ma (Zanclean flood 5.3 Ma?), Pliocene Homo followed the S.Asian coastal forests,
there they became became shellfish-divers = Aq.Ape s.s. (Indon.islands?).
From S.Asia they spread worldwide along coasts + rivers (Aficans are most derived??).

#4. Why we say "Out of Africa" is because, after Toba, they
were the first group to bounce back. They themselves
originated from a group that migrated into Africa from
Eurasia, and by then they were ALL hybrids anyway, but
a sexually selected group in Africa was the "Winner" after
Toba. They recovered first, began to fill in the vacuum.
I'm not a geneticist, I hate DNA, up until more recent years
it honestly wasn't very good "Evidence." They weren't good
at recovering it at all, they weren't good at screening for
contamination and they imposed some pretty idiotic
assumptions on it.. not the least of which was the molecular
clock.
So I missed years & years of advancements, I admit it. But...
If everything they tell us about mtDNA is true, if points to an
origins outside of Africa. For modern man, that is.
Compare the age of any supposed "Eve" mtDNA lineage to
Bonobos:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5414932/
The fact is, mtDNA is under selective pressure. And if you
stay put, keep to a relatively stable environment then your
mtDNA isn't under much pressure to change. Leave, so hiking
to Eurasia though and encounter new environments, new
climates, new foods -- new selective pressures.
So Bonobos haven't been under a lot of selective pressure but
humans have. That selective pressure is in Eurasia. So given
the relatively young age of Mitochondrial Eve, that points towards
a Eurasia origins.

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