• Form, function and evolution of the human hand

    From Pandora@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 13 16:50:01 2022
    Open acess article in Yearbook of Biological Anthropology:

    Form, function and evolution of the human hand

    Abstract

    The modern human hand is an intriguing mix of primitive morphology and
    derived function. Traditionally, its form and function are explained
    as a functional �trade-off� between the requirements of locomotion and manipulation, but recently acquired comparative, experimental and
    fossil evidence suggests that this functional trade-off is more
    complex than conventional wisdom suggests. Moreover, when studying
    hand evolution within the hominin clade, the only morphological
    evidence comes from the hard-tissues, and evidence about hand function
    must be inferred indirectly from the archaeological record. We lack
    information about critical aspects of hand form (e.g., soft tissues)
    and function (e.g., neurology) as well as non-lithic evidence about
    behavior. Thus, comparative anatomical, experimental and ethological
    studies of modern humans and other primates are critical to making
    more informed inferences about hand use in the past. We review the
    relevant fossil and archaeological evidence within the relevant
    comparative context (e.g., other extant apes and dexterous monkeys) in
    an attempt to reconstruct hand evolution within the hominin clade. We
    conclude by summarizing our current understanding�or lack thereof�of
    the evolutionary history of the modern human hand. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajpa.24667

    Obviously not a paddle, fin or flipper.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 13 09:15:34 2022
    Op dinsdag 13 december 2022 om 16:50:03 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

    Open acess, Yearbook of Biological Anthropology:
    "Form, function and evolution of the human hand"
    The modern Hs hand is an intriguing mix of primitive morphology & derived function.
    Traditionally, its form & function are explained as a functional “trade-off” between the requirements of locomotion & manipulation,
    but recently acquired comparative, experimental & fossil evidence suggests: this functional trade-off is more complex than conventional wisdom suggests. When studying hand evolution within the hominin clade, the only morphological evidence comes from the hard-tissues,
    evidence about hand function must be inferred indirectly from the archaeological record.
    We lack information about critical aspects of hand form (e.g. soft tissues) & function (e.g. neurology) & non-lithic evidence about behavior:
    comparative anatomical, experimental & ethological studies of modern Hs & other primates are critical to making more informed inferences about hand use in the past.
    We review the relevant fossil & archaeological evidence within the relevant comparative context (other extant apes & dexterous monkeys),
    we attempt to reconstruct hand evolution within the hominin clade.
    We conclude by summarizing our current understanding (or lack thereof) of the evolutionary history of the modern human hand.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajpa.24667

    Obviously not a paddle, fin or flipper.

    Sigh. Grow up, kudu runner. Nobody says humans can't grasp:
    how do you open your oyster, my little boy?

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Dec 13 12:54:06 2022
    [email protected] wrote:

    Sigh. Grow up, kudu runner. Nobody says humans can't grasp:
    how do you open your oyster, my little boy?

    https://www.science.org/content/article/humans-have-more-primitive-hands-chimpanzees

    The claim is that the Chimp hand has evolved further away from the
    LCA than the human hand. Which means that whatever selective
    pressures were on the human hand (Aquatic Ape), they were present
    prior to divergence.

    Our hand is more "Primitive," so to speak.

    It's another example of how "Humans are apes" and "Humans evolved
    from apes" has poisoned thinking. People look at Chimps and
    Gorillas and assume that's what our ancestors had to look like. But, in
    truth it's not even what their ancestors looked like!




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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/703468006592905216

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 06:30:15 2022
    Op dinsdag 13 december 2022 om 21:54:07 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
    [email protected] wrote:

    ... (kudu runner's nonsense snipped)

    Sigh. Grow up, kudu runner. Nobody says humans can't grasp:
    how do you open your oyster, my little boy?

    https://www.science.org/content/article/humans-have-more-primitive-hands-chimpanzees
    The claim is that the Chimp hand has evolved further away from the
    LCA than the human hand. Which means that whatever selective
    pressures were on the human hand (Aquatic Ape), they were present
    prior to divergence.
    Our hand is more "Primitive," so to speak.
    It's another example of how "Humans are apes" and "Humans evolved
    from apes" has poisoned thinking. People look at Chimps and
    Gorillas and assume that's what our ancestors had to look like. But, in
    truth it's not even what their ancestors looked like.


    Yes, in a sense, our human hand is more primitive than Afr.ape hands:
    G & P evolved knuckle-walking in //.

    I proposed this already some 30 years ago (e.g. my book "In den beginne was het water"),
    today it's +-generally accepted. :-)

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Dec 14 16:06:54 2022
    On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:15:34 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Op dinsdag 13 december 2022 om 16:50:03 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

    Open acess, Yearbook of Biological Anthropology:
    "Form, function and evolution of the human hand"
    The modern Hs hand is an intriguing mix of primitive morphology & derived function.
    Traditionally, its form & function are explained as a functional �trade-off� between the requirements of locomotion & manipulation,
    but recently acquired comparative, experimental & fossil evidence suggests: >this functional trade-off is more complex than conventional wisdom suggests. >When studying hand evolution within the hominin clade, the only morphological evidence comes from the hard-tissues,
    evidence about hand function must be inferred indirectly from the archaeological record.
    We lack information about critical aspects of hand form (e.g. soft tissues) & function (e.g. neurology) & non-lithic evidence about behavior:
    comparative anatomical, experimental & ethological studies of modern Hs & other primates are critical to making more informed inferences about hand use in the past.
    We review the relevant fossil & archaeological evidence within the relevant comparative context (other extant apes & dexterous monkeys),
    we attempt to reconstruct hand evolution within the hominin clade.
    We conclude by summarizing our current understanding (or lack thereof) of the evolutionary history of the modern human hand.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajpa.24667

    Obviously not a paddle, fin or flipper.

    Nobody says humans can't grasp:
    how do you open your oyster?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YPxcF1ta4

    Do you think Homo erectus had a professional quality oyster knife?

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Pandora on Wed Dec 14 09:47:17 2022
    Pandora wrote:

    Do you think Homo erectus had a professional quality oyster knife?

    If you really think that nobody ate an oyster before there were
    "Professional quality oyster knives," or knives for that matter, then
    hang it up. Unsubscribe. Shut off your computer. Give up.

    You clearly have zero interest in these topics. You're reacting
    emotionally, not engaging in any kind of rational discussion.




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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/703468006592905216

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 12:14:39 2022
    Op woensdag 14 december 2022 om 18:47:18 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

    Pandora wrote:

    Do you think Homo erectus had a professional quality oyster knife?

    If you really think that nobody ate an oyster before there were
    "Professional quality oyster knives," or knives for that matter, then
    hang it up. Unsubscribe. Shut off your computer. Give up.
    You clearly have zero interest in these topics. You're reacting
    emotionally, not engaging in any kind of rational discussion.

    Yes, thes fanatics are dogmatically convinced they *know* the Truth:
    human ancestors left the forests for the African savannas,
    and the savannas made them naked, sweaty & bipedal:
    "everybody" knows that...

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 12:23:04 2022
    Op woensdag 14 december 2022 om 21:14:40 UTC+1 schreef [email protected]:
    Op woensdag 14 december 2022 om 18:47:18 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
    Pandora wrote:

    Do you think Homo erectus had a professional quality oyster knife?

    If you really think that nobody ate an oyster before there were "Professional quality oyster knives," or knives for that matter, then
    hang it up. Unsubscribe. Shut off your computer. Give up.
    You clearly have zero interest in these topics. You're reacting emotionally, not engaging in any kind of rational discussion.

    Yes, thes fanatics are dogmatically convinced they *know* the Truth:
    human ancestors left the forests for the African savannas,
    and the savannas made them naked, sweaty & bipedal:
    "everybody" knows that...

    Their real problem is: it's impossible to imagine for them that *professional scientists* can be so terribly wrong...

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