Op zaterdag 8 oktober 2022 om 19:30:49 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
Some imbecile said:
Gibbons do not wade.
Lord know you aren't bright so I'll have to spell it out for you:
You are literally arguing that the ancestor of Gibbons were Gibbons.
That, before Gibbons there were Gibbons. Go back 5, 10, 20 million
years and there's Gibbons. Gibbons are descended from Gibbons.
Again, you're not bright, there's no way you could work any of this
out on your own, but there it is for you... to deny.
Because, like I said, you're not bright.
Yes, that person is a complete waste of time.
Gibbons & all Hominoidea differ from monkeys (NWM as well as OWM):
-very broad sternum, thorax, pelvis + lateral (not ventral) limbs,
-very long limbs,
-central (not dorsal) spine & vertical posture,
-below-branch locomotion (below-branch atelids have extremely long grasping-tails),
-tail loss, more sacral, less lumbar vertebrae,
-longer gestation etc.
IOW, something very drastic happened at the transition from monkey- to apelike body-plan.
Aquarborealism easily explains all this. AFAIK nothing else (cf. atelids).
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