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    From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 27 09:03:51 2021
    Tranchilos footprints not shown, nor are the beach footprints from Namibia, both should have at least got a mention.

    https://nutcrackerman.com/2014/10/14/the-oldest-human-footprints-by-continent/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


    Also
    New chamber in Gibralter cave found, sealed for 40ka.

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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 27 19:50:52 2021
    On 27.9.2021. 18:03, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    Tranchilos footprints not shown, nor are the beach footprints from Namibia, both should have at least got a mention.

    https://nutcrackerman.com/2014/10/14/the-oldest-human-footprints-by-continent/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


    Also
    New chamber in Gibralter cave found, sealed for 40ka.

    Yes, I am really tired of all this idioticity. Humans are idiots. And
    this includes scientists:
    "When Gierliński and his team tried to publish the study, they received harsh criticism due to the findings going against the widely
    accepted hypothesis of early hominins or primates evolving in Africa
    alone. According to the study, the Trachilos footprints may represent an
    early hominin or primate species that may have evolved hominin-like feet independently, outside of Africa. This suggests the possibility of
    convergent evolution. The theory of convergent evolution suggests the possibility of two or more different species adapting similar traits and characteristics to each other, resulting in a similar species. However,
    the theory is not well supported in this case, as there is no concrete
    evidence to suggest the theory results in perfect copies of traits or a
    whole species. As convergent evolution is not scientifically supported,
    there were doubts if the tracks were footprints at all. This resulted in rejections from many scientific journals when offered to publish the
    study's findings.
    In an interview at the CBC News, researchers claimed that while they
    were trying to publish their work about the footprints at high-profile publications they got "ferociously aggressive responses", criticism and rejection from reviewers and editors. According to the researchers “Basically, it wasn't a true peer review process at all,” “They were
    just trying to shut us down.” After multiple rejections from other publications, the study was eventually published in the journal,
    "Proceedings of the Geologists' Association."
    Shortly after the research about the footprints was published, eight
    prints were chiselled out of the rock and stolen. According to
    Protothema.gr, the culprit was a high school teacher, who was later
    arrested by Crete authorities at Kasteli, Chania. The prints were later
    found in his house and on a farm." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachilos_footprints
    So, the question is, why would anybody bother, at all? Somebody can
    only get ill, because of all this stupidity targeted on him.

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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to Mario Petrinovic on Mon Sep 27 19:51:51 2021
    On 27.9.2021. 19:50, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 27.9.2021. 18:03, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    Tranchilos footprints not shown, nor are the beach footprints from
    Namibia, both should have at least got a mention.

    https://nutcrackerman.com/2014/10/14/the-oldest-human-footprints-by-continent/amp/?__twitter_impression=true



    Also
    New chamber in Gibralter cave found, sealed for 40ka.

            Yes, I am really tired of all this idioticity. Humans are idiots. And this includes scientists:
            "When Gierliński and his team tried to publish the study, they
    received harsh criticism due to the findings going against the widely accepted hypothesis of early hominins or primates evolving in Africa
    alone. According to the study, the Trachilos footprints may represent an early hominin or primate species that may have evolved hominin-like feet independently, outside of Africa. This suggests the possibility of
    convergent evolution. The theory of convergent evolution suggests the possibility of two or more different species adapting similar traits and characteristics to each other, resulting in a similar species. However,
    the theory is not well supported in this case, as there is no concrete evidence to suggest the theory results in perfect copies of traits or a
    whole species. As convergent evolution is not scientifically supported,
    there were doubts if the tracks were footprints at all. This resulted in rejections from many scientific journals when offered to publish the
    study's findings.
            In an interview at the CBC News, researchers claimed that while
    they were trying to publish their work about the footprints at
    high-profile publications they got "ferociously aggressive responses", criticism and rejection from reviewers and editors. According to the researchers “Basically, it wasn't a true peer review process at all,” “They were just trying to shut us down.” After multiple rejections from other publications, the study was eventually published in the journal, "Proceedings of the Geologists' Association."
            Shortly after the research about the footprints was published,
    eight prints were chiselled out of the rock and stolen. According to Protothema.gr, the culprit was a high school teacher, who was later
    arrested by Crete authorities at Kasteli, Chania. The prints were later
    found in his house and on a farm." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachilos_footprints
            So, the question is, why would anybody bother, at all? Somebody
    can only get ill, because of all this stupidity targeted on him.

    Oh, thankfully, they don't burn smart people anymore. But, in the
    future, who knows?

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 27 14:07:31 2021
    DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

    Tranchilos footprints not shown, nor are the beach footprints from Namibia, both should have at least got a mention.

    https://nutcrackerman.com/2014/10/14/the-oldest-human-footprints-by-continent/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    The first one is extremely problematic, as it's associated with Acheulean technology
    yet the prints are identified as Australopithecus afarensis...

    It's placing Acheulean technology back further than 3.5 million years!

    There's another MASSIVE conflict between example #3 and #4:

    #3: "The footprints are indistinguishable from our own."

    They identify them as erectus.

    But then...

    #4. "Called Eve’s footprint, because they are the oldest known footprints of an anatomically-modern human."

    But this is literally impossible, this distinction. I mean, THEY ONLY JUST SAID that you can't
    tell erectus footprints from "anatomically-modern human" prints, and then they turn around
    and claim that the next prints were left by anatomically-modern humans.

    THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT LEFT THEM!

    Hint: Naledi was dated in excess of 2 million years, "Because looks," never believing that
    an animal which looked like that could cling on for so long.

    This is true for real science as well, not just paleo anthropology. Trace fossils are valuable
    but can be highly problematic. I remember one example, a lucky break, where apparently
    the dinosaur leaving the tracks in the mud presumably got stuck and died, so they could
    identify it from its bones and then say, "Well. This is what its feet looked like with the flesh
    on them," looking at the prints.

    But that's a real science, or it at least makes an attempt, while paleo anthropology is a
    goddamn social program run by inbred elitists.




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