• Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 27 14:39:10 2022
    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 27 18:04:46 2022
    On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?
    Why didn't mermaids remain aquatic?

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 27 19:35:44 2022
    [email protected] wrote:

    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?

    Maybe they never were? Maybe they are the inland variant? Maybe
    they're the population which wandered inland and started adapting
    to the terrestrial environment.

    A lot of these populations had to be exactly that: Not aquatic by
    the inland descendants of aquatic populations.




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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to I Envy JTEM on Sat May 28 02:41:13 2022
    On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 10:35:45 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
    [email protected] wrote:

    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?
    Maybe they never were? Maybe they are the inland variant? Maybe
    they're the population which wandered inland and started adapting
    to the terrestrial environment.

    A lot of these populations had to be exactly that: Not aquatic by
    the inland descendants of aquatic populations.




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    Yah, jus like A Einstein! Dumb inlander!!

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 28 05:07:14 2022
    Op zaterdag 28 mei 2022 om 04:35:45 UTC+2 schreef I Envy JTEM:

    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?

    Maybe they never were? Maybe they are the inland variant?

    Yes, probably they're the inland variant of hominid populations in coastal forests around the Ind.Ocean.
    Nevertheless, gracile apiths (Pliocene) are typically found in swamp forests, and robust apiths (eaerly-Pleistocene) in wetlands.

    But I meant: why didn't apes (who had apith-like ancestors) remain aquarboreal? Because the Mio-Pliocene coastal/swamp forests have disappeared? ice ages??
    Is coastal fossilization less likely than inland fossilization?

    Detailed comparisons show:
    E.Afr.apiths (afarensis, boisei) were fossil relatives of Gorilla, and S.Afr.apiths (africanus, robustus) of Pan,
    IOW, E & S.Afr.apiths evolved in parallel from late-Pliocene "gracile" (afarensis//africanus) to early-Pleistocene "robust (boisei//robustus).
    Graciles as well as robusts lived in very specific milieus, but which exactly? for graciles, google "bonobo wading" & "gorilla bai"??


    Maybe
    they're the population which wandered inland and started adapting
    to the terrestrial environment.
    A lot of these populations had to be exactly that: Not aquatic by
    the inland descendants of aquatic populations.

    Yes, we don't know much about Pliocene Homo, but Pleistocene Homo was littoral. Schematically IMO:
    -early-Pleist.H.erectus: extreme POS, large brain, small paranasal sinuses: frequent shallow-diving + back-floating,
    -mid-Pleist.H.neand.: less POS, extreme CC (DHA etc.?), very large PNSs: they (seasonally?) followed the rivers inland, diving-wading,
    -late-Pleist.H.sapiens: no POS, less large CC, less large PNSs: wading + walking on land.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 30 07:11:57 2022
    Op maandag 30 mei 2022 om 15:29:27 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:


    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?

    When the premise is wrong the problem is illusory.

    Keep running after your kudu, my boy.

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 30 15:29:26 2022
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 14:39:10 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?

    When the premise is wrong the problem is illusory.

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 30 17:51:12 2022
    On Mon, 30 May 2022 07:11:57 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Op maandag 30 mei 2022 om 15:29:27 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:


    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?

    When the premise is wrong the problem is illusory.

    Keep running after your kudu, my boy.

    Why does it always have to be kudu?
    Why not bushbuck or sitatunga, dik-dik or klipspringer, oribi or
    duiker for a change? I mean, there are so many species of antelope in
    Africa.
    Think of the benefits of a varied diet.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 30 13:10:20 2022
    Keep running after your kudu, my boy.

    Why does it always have to be kudu?
    Why not bushbuck or sitatunga, dik-dik or klipspringer, oribi or
    duiker for a change? I mean, there are so many species of antelope in
    Africa. Think of the benefits of a varied diet.

    :-DDD

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 30 23:06:37 2022
    [email protected] wrote:
    Why didn't apiths remain aquarboreal?


    https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/519723

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