• erectus and the Titanic

    From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 6 12:32:23 2022
    Everyone alive today could be -- meaning, it's theoretically
    possible -- descended from a passenger on the Titanic.

    The funny thing is, if our species lasts long enough, if
    people travel and intermarry enough or any at all, eventually
    everyone on the planet WILL be descended from a passenger
    onboard the titanic, or nobody will.

    Kidnap a statistician and maybe a geneticist, tie them up &
    force them to explain all this if you don't believe me. But,
    given a enough time, given the spread of humans,
    inter marrying (etc), eventually either everyone on the planet
    will have a titanic passenger as an ancestor or nobody will.

    Now what does this have to do with erectus?

    Oh. I left out one little detail:

    We could only be descended from SURVIVORS! We'd be
    descended from people who were on the Titanic and
    survived.

    NOW do you see what this has to do with erectus?

    The point is, there were many different POPULATIONS
    of humans, but we aren't descended from all of them.

    Multi regionalism/Regional continuity is real. It's
    confirmed to some level. In places like Australia it
    seems confirmed to a very great level! And none of
    this is in conflict with Aquatic Ape.

    Humans spread out. We know this. Humans were
    everywhere from Australia to Africa and everywhere
    in between. Humans moved inland. We know this to
    be true. Humans formed distinct populations,
    Neanderthals for example...

    We had Aquatic Ape or Waterside. Periodically
    populations left the coast, pushed inland and adapted
    to the new environments they found. They were driven
    off the shore by conflict. They were driven off the
    shore by natural disasters. They were driven off the
    shore by disease. They were driven off the shore by
    the climate cycle -- dropping sea levels drawing them
    in, rising sea levels swallowing up their habitat...

    So there were all these different populations, but we're
    not descended from all of them. In fact, the only
    population that the entire human race can all claim as
    shared ancestry is the Aquatic/Waterside population.

    It's sort of a "Last man standing" kind of thing, which is
    why the Titanic analogy works.

    There were a number of catastrophic events. Massive,
    completely off the charts type events. If Yellowstone
    explodes tomorrow we're looking at a conservatively
    estimated energy release equivalent to 100,000 nuclear
    weapons. Toba did explode a little over 70k years ago,
    only it was about 2.5x larger than Yellowstone. It was
    THAT big.

    A little over 40,000 years ago there was volcanic
    activity that just about stopped all the plants in Europe
    from pollenating for about a year. What do you think
    THAT did to the last of the Neanderthals?

    REMINDER: It was a much smaller event than Toba!

    about 800,000 years ago southest Asia/Oceana was
    ground-zero for one or more asteroid impacts. And
    not a little one. Not as large as the one that wiped out
    the dinosaurs but large enough to end civilization
    today.

    These events, and the glacial/interglacial cycle, were
    all filters. They wiped out entire populations, maybe
    entire species. And we are descended from their
    survivors.

    Where does that leave us?

    On a beach. At or near the equator, most likely, but on
    a beach.

    The Aquatic/Waterside/littoral population was in the
    best position to survive. They just plain were. So even
    if 90 or 99% of the waterside population had eventually
    split off, moved inland, our common ancestors were
    still that waterside group. Because they lived. They were
    the ones in the best position to survive and leave
    descendents.





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