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  • We evolved to run

    From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 12 23:44:33 2021
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/487295a.html

    Olympics: Run for your life
    Published online 18 July 2012

    Humans evolved to run. This helps to explain our athletic capacity and our susceptibility to modern diseases, argue Timothy Noakes and Michael Spedding. ...
    We, the authors, were both considering the modern paradox of elite
    athleticism and growing susceptibility to disease when we met at a sports conference in Glasgow, UK, in 2010. Noakes is a sports scientist who has
    run more than 70 marathons and ultramarathons. He was presenting data suggesting that humans' unmatched ability to dissipate heat when running,
    even when drinking sparingly, might have been a key element that enabled
    them to evolve from tree-living primates. Spedding, a pharmacologist
    presenting studies of how stress can increase the risk of psychiatric disorders, has run more than 100,000 kilometres and been a competitive
    athlete for more than 40 years. His brother, Charlie, holds the English marathon record and won Olympic bronze in 1984 by ignoring drink stations
    at crucial stages in the Los Angeles marathon. We began exchanging e-mails. Eventually, that correspondence coalesced into the theory we outline here.
    ...
    Over the past few million years, the climate underwent dramatic shifts and Africa changed from a largely forested ecosystem to a more open savannah.
    Our ancestors, caught at the edge of the retreating forests, became less adapted for climbing trees. By 2 million years ago, they had evolved a
    skeleton that could support walking and running - partly so that they
    could hunt by pursuing individual animals for hours at a time.
    ...
    The best weapon was endurance. The predators had to outlast their prey,
    and so had many adaptations that enabled them to walk and run long distances, forcing their prey to gallop. Because four-legged animals cannot lose heat
    by panting and galloping at the same time, human hunters eventually drive
    their prey into heat stroke, so that the animal can be caught and killed
    with very simple weapons.
    ...

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 13 01:02:45 2021
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/487295a.html
    Olympics: Run for your life
    Published online 18 July 2012

    Obviously wishful thining of pseudo-scientist. Ridiculous article, unworthy for Nature;
    Nobody denies humans can run (slowly), but only incredible imbeciles still believe their Peistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.

    Humans evolved to run. This helps to explain our athletic capacity ...

    DDD
    Our "athletic capacity" = 0 compared to +-all other terrestrial mammals.
    See https://www.nature.com/articles/nature03052#article-comments

    Nobody doubts that there are a few human populations today where adult men sometimes run prey to exhaustion on African plains,
    but it's not because there are a few people today who use this hunting method that our ancestors must have endurance-run a few million years ago.
    The authors didn't even include the possibility of wading or swimming vs running in their comparisons.
    IMO it's difficult to understand that Nature published this biased paper. Comparative anatomy shows that plantigrady is maladaptive to cursorialism, but is typically seen in wading or swimming animals.
    Different independent lines of evidence suggest that early-Pleistocene Homo dispersed intercontinentally, not running over open plains, but initially simply following the African & Eurasian coasts,
    and later from the coasts they ventured inland along the rivers, or OTOH even reached overseas islands such as Flores, Luzon, Cyprus etc.
    For an update of this littoral theory of human evolution, google e.g. "coastal dispersal of Pleistocene Homo 2018 biology vs anthropocentrism".

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Mon Dec 13 11:14:51 2021
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Humans evolved to run

    ...at the mouth.

    Humans are walkers. Period.



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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to I Envy JTEM on Wed Dec 22 13:10:54 2021
    I Envy JTEM wrote:


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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Dec 22 13:05:39 2021
    [email protected] wrote:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/487295a.html
    Olympics: Run for your life
    Published online 18 July 2012

    Obviously wishful thining of pseudo-scientist. Ridiculous article, unworthy for Nature;
    Nobody denies humans can run

    And how do you think we got that way?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 31 03:47:58 2021
    Op woensdag 22 december 2021 om 21:05:38 UTC+1 schreef Primum Sapienti:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/487295a.html
    Olympics: Run for your life
    Published online 18 July 2012

    Obviously wishful thining of pseudo-scientist. Ridiculous article, unworthy for Nature;
    Nobody denies humans can run

    And how do you think we got that way?

    Don't you know?
    Google "ape human evolution made easy PPT verhaegen"

    Nobody doubts that there are a few human populations today where adult men sometimes run prey to exhaustion on African plains, but it's not because there are a few people today who use this hunting method that our ancestors must have endurance-run a few
    million years ago.
    The authors didn't even include the possibility of wading or swimming vs running in their comparisons. IMO it's difficult to understand that Nature published this biased paper. Comparative anatomy shows that plantigrady is maladaptive to cursorialism,
    but is typically seen in wading or swimming animals. Different independent lines of evidence suggest that early-Pleistocene Homo dispersed intercontinentally, not running over open plains, but initially simply following the African and Eurasian coasts (
    and later from the coasts ventured inland along the rivers, or OTOH even reached overseas islands such as Flores, Luzon, Cyprus etc.). For an update of this littoral theory of human evolution, google e.g. "coastal dispersal of Pleistocene Homo 2018
    biology vs anthropocentrism".

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Dec 31 23:05:58 2021
    [email protected] wrote:
    Op woensdag 22 december 2021 om 21:05:38 UTC+1 schreef Primum Sapienti:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v487/n7407/full/487295a.html
    Olympics: Run for your life
    Published online 18 July 2012

    Obviously wishful thining of pseudo-scientist. Ridiculous article, unworthy for Nature;
    Nobody denies humans can run

    And how do you think we got that way?

    Don't you know? > Google "ape human evolution made easy PPT verhaegen"

    Nobody doubts that there are a few human populations today where adult men sometimes run prey to exhaustion on African plains, but it's not because there are a few people today who use this hunting method that our ancestors must have endurance-run a
    few million years ago.
    The authors didn't even include the possibility of wading or swimming vs running in their comparisons. IMO it's difficult to understand that Nature published this biased paper. Comparative anatomy shows that plantigrady is maladaptive to cursorialism,
    but is typically seen in wading or swimming animals. Different independent lines of evidence suggest that early-Pleistocene Homo dispersed intercontinentally, not running over open plains, but initially simply following the African and Eurasian coasts (
    and later from the coasts ventured inland along the rivers, or OTOH even reached overseas islands such as Flores, Luzon, Cyprus etc.). For an update of this littoral theory of human evolution, google e.g. "coastal dispersal of Pleistocene Homo 2018
    biology vs anthropocentrism".


    As soon as human young can walk they try to go fast - this leads to
    running. QED

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