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    From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 5 02:57:08 2023
    Does anyone know which of the kabu/myoseki now
    recognized by the Kyokai goes back the farthest?

    I noted on the recent death of Asashio IV (former
    ozeki),former shisho of Takasago-beya,that his
    kabu only developed from a shikona in the 1870s,
    which must be among the most recent (not counting
    ichidai toshiyori)...but which is oldest?

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  • From Kobayashi Toshiharu@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 12 17:06:22 2023
    2023年11月5日日曜日 11:57:10 UTC+9 Louis Epstein:
    Does anyone know which of the kabu/myoseki now
    recognized by the Kyokai goes back the farthest?

    I noted on the recent death of Asashio IV (former
    ozeki),former shisho of Takasago-beya,that his
    kabu only developed from a shikona in the 1870s,
    which must be among the most recent (not counting
    ichidai toshiyori)...but which is oldest?

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    I didn't find oldest kabu but find some lists.

    1742 10
    Shiratama

    1669 Oyama
    1684 Ikazuchi

    1823 List
    Shikoroyama
    Kumegawa
    Tomozuna
    Araiso
    Kiyomigata
    Katsunoura
    Urakaze
    Hidenoyama
    Sadogatake
    Shiratama
    Yamawaki
    Furiwake
    Takekuma
    Tokiwayama
    Nishikishima
    Tatsutagawa
    Matsugane
    Kabutoyama
    Yamahibiki
    Tamanoi
    Chiganoura
    Oitekaze
    Musashigawa
    Hatachiyama
    Kiriyama
    Wakafuji
    Magaki
    Sakaigawa
    Hanakago
    Hamakaze
    Irumagawa

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    Kobayashi Toshiharu

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