• Re: Falling NYC Murders and Shootings

    From TomS@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Thu Aug 4 17:38:24 2022
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:44:36 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    "Even as shootings and homicides have decreased slightly, the perception of New York City as a dangerous place has persisted."
    Bloomberg - July 29, 2022
    -- https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-stat-reality/

    Crime statistics have decreased because cops have STOPPED arresting criminals they know will just be released! Look at this and tell me crime in NYC is dropping:
    https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Fri Aug 5 12:00:02 2022
    On 2022-08-04 17:38, TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:44:36 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    "Even as shootings and homicides have decreased slightly, the perception of New York City as a dangerous place has persisted."
    Bloomberg - July 29, 2022
    -- https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-stat-reality/

    Crime statistics have decreased because cops have STOPPED arresting criminals they know will just be released!

    And that affects the number of actual HOMICIDES...

    ...how, exactly, sunshine?

    Look at this and tell me crime in NYC is dropping: https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/

    How does a map of current conditions prove anything about change over
    time, Sunshine?

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Aug 5 12:55:36 2022
    On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 3:00:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-04 17:38, TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:44:36 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    "Even as shootings and homicides have decreased slightly, the perception of New York City as a dangerous place has persisted."
    Bloomberg - July 29, 2022
    -- https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-stat-reality/

    Crime statistics have decreased because cops have STOPPED arresting criminals they know will just be released!
    And that affects the number of actual HOMICIDES...

    Not possible for SHOOTINGS, either. Most medium and large modern cities like Paris, London and NY have special microphones near outdoor street cameras that pick-up gun-shot sounds, some even in-doors.

    So, what makes TomS guess that there is undetected murder or gunfire? Or how else would he explain his 'guessing'?

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to TomS on Fri Aug 5 12:46:23 2022
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 8:38:25 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:44:36 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    "Even as shootings and homicides have decreased slightly, the perception of New York City as a dangerous place has persisted."
    Bloomberg - July 29, 2022
    -- https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-stat-reality/

    Crime statistics have decreased

    That's all that matters, TomS. You can't guess why.

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to bruce bowser on Fri Aug 5 17:47:06 2022
    On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 12:55:37 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 3:00:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-04 17:38, TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:44:36 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    "Even as shootings and homicides have decreased slightly, the perception of New York City as a dangerous place has persisted."
    Bloomberg - July 29, 2022
    -- https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-stat-reality/

    Crime statistics have decreased because cops have STOPPED arresting criminals they know will just be released!
    And that affects the number of actual HOMICIDES...
    Not possible for SHOOTINGS, either. Most medium and large modern cities like Paris, London and NY have special microphones near outdoor street cameras that pick-up gun-shot sounds, some even in-doors.

    So, what makes TomS guess that there is undetected murder or gunfire? Or how else would he explain his 'guessing'?

    Oh, REALLY?
    https://www.shotspotter.com/community/community-safety/

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to TomS on Sat Aug 6 09:47:21 2022
    TomS wrote:

    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:44:36 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    "Even as shootings and homicides have decreased slightly, the
    perception of New York City as a dangerous place has persisted."
    Bloomberg - July 29, 2022 --

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-stat-reality/

    Crime statistics have decreased because cops have STOPPED arresting
    criminals they know will just be released! Look at this and tell me
    crime in NYC is dropping: https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/

    Boo Hoo can always be relied on to come up with the dumbest responses
    and have no clue why.

    Only Betty could claim a correlation between less arrests and less
    homicides.

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  • From bruce bowser@21:1/5 to TomS on Thu Sep 22 11:49:54 2022
    On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 8:47:08 PM UTC-4, TomS wrote:
    On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 12:55:37 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 3:00:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-04 17:38, TomS wrote:
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:44:36 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
    "Even as shootings and homicides have decreased slightly, the perception of New York City as a dangerous place has persisted."
    Bloomberg - July 29, 2022
    -- https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-stat-reality/

    Crime statistics have decreased because cops have STOPPED arresting criminals they know will just be released!
    And that affects the number of actual HOMICIDES...
    Not possible for SHOOTINGS, either. Most medium and large modern cities like Paris, London and NY have special microphones near outdoor street cameras that pick-up gun-shot sounds, some even in-doors.

    So, what makes TomS guess that there is undetected murder or gunfire? Or how else would he explain his 'guessing'?
    Oh, REALLY?

    Now. Prove 'em wrong.

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