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  • Re: OT: Democratic Socialist wins Demo primary in NYC

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Thu Jun 26 12:19:40 2025
    jdeluise <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r
    Sawfish <[email protected]> writes:> This is a very interesting event and we'll see if it establishes > a trend.>> A young man (33) of Indian descent has won the Democratic party> primary for NYC. Since registered Demos vastly outnumber > registered>
    GOP-ers, he's favored to win in the regular election.>> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/25/mamdanis-nyc-victory-leaves-wall-street-alarmed-and-depressed.html>> If I understand this correctly, he is a member of the Democratic> Socialists of America, which
    is technically not a political > party.>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialists_of_America>> 3 out of 12 city council persons elected in PDX in the 2024 > election> are DSA members. Is this the beginning of an opposition trend to> Trumpism?
    Beginning? Did you hear about those 'uge Sanders/AOC rallies taking place earlier this year? Or the "No Kings" protests? If you consume only mainstream Trump-friendly media (Fox, OAN, Truth Social, etc.) I wouldn't blame you if you hadn't. In any
    case, democratic socialism isn't some ultra hard left movement. It's more like European social democrats, so more center-left. That perception is twisted because the American hard right has gone so far right it's now gleefully flirting with naked
    fascism...


    The thing is, Sanders has like 20% or 50% views that I find normal, sane, and desirable but also 50% or more that are absolute lunacy.

    So it's like bottle of finest champagne and shit mixed together. It's shit after all. Diluted one but shit.


    So while I do agree republicans are wrong on some issues, luckily Trump changed the face of the party, Maga is definitely an improvement from what they were 10 years so they're more like classic European right wingers, they're nationalist now just need
    more socialist policies for home people, more environmentalism and they'd be ok.


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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 26 17:10:32 2025
    jdeluise kirjoitti 26.6.2025 klo 12.52:
    In any case, democratic socialism isn't some ultra hard left movement.
    It's more like European social democrats, so more center-left.

    European social democrats have been extremely left the past years.

    Unless you think that importing terrorists & 3rd world criminals to fill
    the countries, woke, gender nonsense & overboard green policies is only
    little left of the center.

    That
    perception is twisted because the American hard right has gone so far
    right it's now gleefully flirting with naked fascism...

    Or maybe what's changed is that the left parties have moved to extreme left.

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Thu Jun 26 22:48:24 2025
    On 6/26/2025 11:27 AM, Sawfish wrote:
    On 6/26/25 7:10 AM, TT wrote:
    jdeluise kirjoitti 26.6.2025 klo 12.52:
    In any case, democratic socialism isn't some ultra hard left
    movement. It's more like European social democrats, so more center-left.

    European social democrats have been extremely left the past years.

    Unless you think that importing terrorists & 3rd world criminals to
    fill the countries, woke, gender nonsense & overboard green policies
    is only little left of the center.

    That perception is twisted because the American hard right has gone
    so far right it's now gleefully flirting with naked fascism...

    Or maybe what's changed is that the left parties have moved to extreme
    left.

    That seems to me to have been what's happened in the US since Obama days.


    I concur with both of you.
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