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On 6/20/25 3:24 AM, *skriptis wrote:> Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r>> Dear Fellow-Sufferers,What is:1. the likely scope of initial US involvement?2. the odds of such involvement within the next week?I'll go first:1. B2 GPU 57 bomb
strikes against the hardened Fordow nuclear enrichment facility.2. 60/40 for involvementOn a personal level this is quite worrisome, no shit. Not in a moral sense, but more like a "what's this going to cost me?" sense. By cost, I mean personal risk,
financial and physical.> > > > Why do you use euphemism?Not intending euphemism, skript. I want to use a word that would encompass anything from negotiated regime change, to completely nuking Iran.> > If it does happen, it won't be "involvement".You're
narrowing it to war. OK, let's talk about that.> > You're already involved by supporting Israel, providing them intelligence data, military equipment and money.Yes, and that's OK if it buys something. But with Israelis, it won't buy much, nor for very
long.Which is another irony because getting to Iran primarily benefits Israel, not the US. Of course there's always been tremendous rhetoric here that Iran is an implied direct threat, but that's window-dressing. It is to support Israel so as to please
the Jewish faction here.> > If you outrightly attack Iran then it's USA vs Iran war, another American aggression.Yes. No question there.> > > I prefer linguistic and logical clarity, no?If you want to focus on war, sure.Now, in giving Iran two weeks,
Trump is attempting to settle it by means other than war. But that is not as solid a solution, from the Israeli viewpoint mostly, and that's because more of the nuclear capability would survive a regime change than would survive a successful war.I mean,
oh, sure, you could get new leaders who are a bit less belligerent, but they could go back on it, or yet another hard-line regime could come to power (it's been pretty much one after another since the 80s, so why expect something else?) and still what's
currently left of the nuclear program remains. But after a successful war, almost all of it could be sniffed out and destroyed.So Israel probably prefers a US fought war. The more fool us if we buy this.> >
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