• What is Nadal without his non-FO accomplishments?

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 22 08:27:35 2025
    It's still 14 slams, ranked #3 in all-time slam count rankings, sharing that spot with Sampras. Drop from #2 but it's just one place, still not a huge drop, considering you've removed 8 slams.

    And of course, ludicrous FO and clay accomplishments are still there so those are intact and those are his main boat credentials anyway.

    All in all, the bulk of his legacy is kinda intact, although he's diminished.



    It's a good comparison for Russia.


    They want and need their non-FO accomplishments back.

    They mostly always had it.
    Certainly they had it when they were at peak.
    Russian Empire had it.
    Soviet Union had it.

    Russian Federation doesn't have it.
    They merely have those 14 FO. Not the rest.


    To be fair, they've not lost those 8 slams entirely but the bulk of it has become contested in recent decades and they were on path to losing it, Biden tried to finalize it, ultimately crossing Russia's red line.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/08/biden-didnt-accept-putins-red-line-on-ukraine-what-it-means.html



    Maybe for Russia, being Djokovic (goat) is out of reach, that spot is reserved for China or America, who have bigger numbers thus bigger economies, Russia is short on manpower.

    But they will do everything to stay Nadal, and not be Sampras. Nadal with all of his gems, he's part of the Big 3. An equal of the grandest trio.

    Without those 8 non-FO slams, he's stuck at #3 sharing it with Sampras and Djokovic and Federer are way ahead, separated.

    Just as Nadal fought tooth and nails for his 8 non-FO slams, so will Russia.



    These are well known facts, supported by US scholars as well.


    https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jan-Blaha-2/publication/325444322/figure/fig1/AS:631975668891650@1527686149810/Civilizations-according-to-Huntington-1996-Note-partly-modified-scale-1260-000-000.png


    Where is Ukraine (borderlands, frontier) on this map? Whose civilisation?


    It's good that Trump is pushing world into a more sane way of thinking and acting and frankly, more humane way.

    Hundreds of thousands didn't have to die, merely because old senile fool was a puppet of warmongering cabal trying to overthrow natural order.

    Men dressing as women is as natural and sane as eastern European orthodox and Slavic Ukraine being part of "Atlantic alliance".


    Biden's regime was deeply unnatural on all counts.


    Nobel peace prize is utterly devalued and irrelevant but Trump would certainly have earned himself a legit one if he makes world peace.



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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Feb 23 13:15:09 2025
    Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
    I think that this is very interesting and a playful literary conceit to compare Nadal with Russia.I hope you aren't suggesting that because of the similarities you've created (legitimately) their "lives" are bound to follow the same arcs. That would be
    sympathetic magic.



    I'm glad I'm successful in my writings. ;)

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 07:42:20 2025
    On 2/23/2025 6:15 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
    I think that this is very interesting and a playful literary conceit to compare Nadal with Russia.I hope you aren't suggesting that because of the similarities you've created (legitimately) their "lives" are bound to follow the same arcs. That would
    be sympathetic magic.



    I'm glad I'm successful in my writings. ;)

    At the very least, they are entertaining! ;)

    That said, I do enjoy your insights. I like reading insights from
    differing viewpoints regardless of who states them, unless it's jd or
    pete of course... ;)
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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 07:45:58 2025
    On 2/22/2025 1:27 AM, *skriptis wrote:

    It's still 14 slams, ranked #3 in all-time slam count rankings, sharing that spot with Sampras. Drop from #2 but it's just one place, still not a huge drop, considering you've removed 8 slams.

    And of course, ludicrous FO and clay accomplishments are still there so those are intact and those are his main boat credentials anyway.

    All in all, the bulk of his legacy is kinda intact, although he's diminished.



    It's a good comparison for Russia.


    They want and need their non-FO accomplishments back.

    They mostly always had it.
    Certainly they had it when they were at peak.
    Russian Empire had it.
    Soviet Union had it.

    Russian Federation doesn't have it.

    *skriptis - serious question here. Besides NATO pulling back to it's
    1990 borders, what is the biggest need for Russia to get back to it's
    full strength?
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 23 16:13:22 2025
    Scall5 <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
    *skriptis - serious question here. Besides NATO pulling back to it's 1990 borders, what is the biggest need for Russia to get back to it's full strength?


    Population crisis, not enough births, basically Russians are disappearing.

    But it's something happening to West as well. In some ways Russia is better off and in some ways it's worse off.

    Russia is worse off because their population pyramid is horrendous, it shows generational shock from ww2 when entire generation was halved and the effect is felt to this day. Another shock on shock was USSR collapse causing mass poverty and population
    another decline.


    https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russia_Population_Pyramid.svg


    So one problem is not having enough births, another is that due to historical events, generations are inconsistent in numbers which is an additional strain on society imo.


    Currently they have cca 1.2 million births which is to say if we assume 80 years life expectancy they're producing enough people for cca more or less 100 million nation.

    So it's all bad.

    They do import many people, it's been going on for the past few decades, primarily they've focused on Russians from other former USSR countries but also other people from those former Soviet Union states.



    The positive side is that they're partially willing to endure the consequences of their misfortunes by not going full immigration mode? Russia is still somewhat feminist society pandering to women like they did in Soviet times, but it's not really on
    pair with the west. Women's "independence" or careers or promoting women over men in society is not the state policy. And it's not controversial to say motherhood is more important than careers.

    Likewise, ethnic replacement of native people with imported people is not seen as something good, nor is it seen as a solution.

    If we need to import aliens to save us from going extinct have we really stopped our extinction?

    Basically for Russians this is a very simple, non-controversial question with a clear answer.

    For westerners it causes nervous breakdown and accusations of Hitlerism begin.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 23 16:16:40 2025
    *skriptis <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r
    Scall5 <[email protected]> Wrote in message:> *skriptis - serious question here. Besides NATO pulling back to it's 1990 borders, what is the biggest need for Russia to get back to it's full strength?Population crisis, not enough births, basically
    Russians are disappearing.But it's something happening to West as well. In some ways Russia is better off and in some ways it's worse off.Russia is worse off because their population pyramid is horrendous, it shows generational shock from ww2 when entire
    generation was halved and the effect is felt to this day. Another shock on shock was USSR collapse causing mass poverty and population another decline.https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russia_Population_Pyramid.svgSo one problem is not having
    enough births, another is that due to historical events, generations are inconsistent in numbers which is an additional strain on society imo. Currently they have cca 1.2 million births which is to say if we assume 80 years life expectancy they're
    producing enough people for cca more or less 100 million nation.So it's all bad.They do import many people, it's been going on for the past few decades, primarily they've focused on Russians from other former USSR countries but also other people from
    those former Soviet Union states. The positive side is that they're partially willing to endure the consequences of their misfortunes by not going full immigration mode? Russia is still somewhat feminist society pandering to women like they did in Soviet
    times, but it's not really on pair with the west. Women's "independence" or careers or promoting women over men in society is not the state policy. And it's not controversial to say motherhood is more important than careers.Likewise, ethnic replacement
    of native people with imported people is not seen as something good, nor is it seen as a solution. If we need to import aliens to save us from going extinct have we really stopped our extinction?Basically for Russians this is a very simple, non-
    controversial question with a clear answer.For westerners it causes nervous breakdown and accusations of Hitlerism begin. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html




    This one is actually animated.

    https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russia_animated_population_pyramid.gif



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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Feb 23 18:58:03 2025
    On 23/02/2025 17.34, Sawfish wrote:
    On 2/23/25 7:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    Scall5 <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
    *skriptis - serious question here. Besides NATO pulling back to it's
    1990 borders, what is the biggest need for Russia to get back to it's
    full strength?


    Population crisis, not enough births, basically Russians are
    disappearing.

    But it's something happening to West as well. In some ways Russia is
    better off and in some ways it's worse off.

    Russia is worse off because their population pyramid is horrendous, it
    shows generational shock from ww2 when entire generation was halved
    and the effect is felt to this day. Another shock on shock was USSR
    collapse causing mass poverty and population another decline.


    https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russia_Population_Pyramid.svg


    So one problem is not having enough births, another is that due to
    historical events, generations are inconsistent in numbers which is an
    additional strain on society imo.


    Currently they have cca 1.2 million births which is to say if we
    assume 80 years life expectancy they're producing enough people for
    cca more or less 100 million nation.

    So it's all bad.

    They do import many people, it's been going on for the past few
    decades, primarily they've focused on Russians from other former USSR
    countries but also other people from those former Soviet Union states.



    The positive side is that they're partially willing to endure the
    consequences of their misfortunes by not going full immigration mode?
    Russia is still somewhat feminist society pandering to women like they
    did in Soviet times, but it's not really on pair with the west.
    Women's "independence" or careers or promoting women over men in
    society is not the state policy. And it's not controversial to say
    motherhood is more important than careers.

    Likewise, ethnic replacement of native people with imported people is
    not seen as something good, nor is it seen as a solution.

    If we need to import aliens to save us from going extinct have we
    really stopped our extinction?

    Basically for Russians this is a very simple, non-controversial
    question with a clear answer.

    For westerners it causes nervous breakdown and accusations of
    Hitlerism begin.


    FWIW, very good analysis, skript.

    Not really. Demographics or replacement theories don't explain why
    Russia started the war.

    The final chapter of this war looks bad, but it hasn't been written yet. Putin's "victory" is entirely dependent on Trump. You never know with
    that guy. He's a terrible deal maker with zero plans on anything that
    tends to not stand his ground when we're near a point of no return.

    It's important now that the small cats of Europe keep their upper lips
    stiff. Fat chance, but it's important anyways.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 19:28:47 2025
    On 23/02/2025 18.58, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    It's important now that the small cats of Europe keep their upper lips
    stiff. Fat chance, but it's important anyways.


    It looks like CDU is winning in Germany. One of the many problems the
    small cats have is that there is no Merkel around. She was the leader of
    the free world five years ago. Merz could maybe carry the torch. Maybe.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sun Feb 23 19:00:57 2025
    jdeluise <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r
    Sawfish <[email protected]> writes:> On 2/23/25 7:13 AM, *skriptis wrote:>> Scall5 <[email protected]> Wrote in message:>>> *skriptis - serious question here. Besides NATO pulling back >>> to it's 1990 borders, what is the biggest need for Russia to >>
    get back to it's full strength?>> Population crisis, not enough births, basically Russians are>> disappearing.>> But it's something happening to West as well. In some ways >> Russia is>> better off and in some ways it's worse off.>> Russia is worse off
    because their population pyramid is >> horrendous,>> it shows generational shock from ww2 when entire generation was>> halved and the effect is felt to this day. Another shock on >> shock>> was USSR collapse causing mass poverty and population another>>
    decline.>> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Russia_Population_Pyramid.svg>> So one problem is not having enough births, another is that due >> to>> historical events, generations are inconsistent in numbers >> which is>> an additional strain on
    society imo.>> Currently they have cca 1.2 million births which is to say if >> we>> assume 80 years life expectancy they're producing enough people >> for>> cca more or less 100 million nation.>> So it's all bad.>> They do import many people, it's been
    going on for the past few>> decades, primarily they've focused on Russians from other >> former>> USSR countries but also other people from those former Soviet >> Union>> states.>> The positive side is that they're partially willing to endure >> the>>
    consequences of their misfortunes by not going full immigration>> mode? Russia is still somewhat feminist society pandering to >> women>> like they did in Soviet times, but it's not really on pair with >> the>> west. Women's "independence" or careers or
    promoting women over >> men>> in society is not the state policy. And it's not controversial >> to>> say motherhood is more important than careers.>> Likewise, ethnic replacement of native people with imported >> people>> is not seen as something good,
    nor is it seen as a solution.>> If we need to import aliens to save us from going extinct have >> we>> really stopped our extinction?>> Basically for Russians this is a very simple, non-controversial>> question with a clear answer.>> For westerners it
    causes nervous breakdown and accusations of>> Hitlerism begin.>> >> FWIW, very good analysis, skript.So, Russia starts a war to solve a population and feminism crisis and proceeds to lose as many as 800k men? Like WW2 empowered women back home by
    bringing them into the workforce and into the factories, so does this war. And it creates a perfect environment to need foreign labor too. Hell, they've even imported North Koreans to fight their war for them. And I doubt Kim is going to want them
    back...Not exactly scintillating analysis from *skrip. I'd call it stupid propaganda, but whatever floats your boat!



    Your ways of trolling are stupid.

    Please read what Scall asked. He said "what's other major issue hurting Russia and/or preventing it from becoming happy other than military threats and provocations by NATO".

    So if I share with him my opinion on this other issue, it doesn't mean those two issues were linked.

    Get it?


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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Feb 23 21:45:58 2025
    Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
    Yeah, I wondered where the connection to warfare came from that jd and pelle injected into the discussion.The saying here is "from out of left field".



    I guess they think Putin thought that by dealing with one issue he would solve another one.

    ;)


    But hey, it's jdeluise and Pelle.



    The points they make is kinda like?

    https://youtu.be/fnHoKJTty5o?feature=shared


    Sacrifice your 8 minutes to watch this episode, this Czechoslovak cartoon is iconic, my childhood favourite really, among many. I'd say it's as different from others as Fabrice Santoro of all the cartoons I watched and liked.

    (It's stop motion animated actually.)





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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Feb 23 22:21:00 2025
    Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
    Avoidable self-inflicted problems that are compounded by more ill-advised remedies?It's interesting to note that neither of them actually responded to your answer to Scall's question; they responded to my reply to you.It was my *reply* that got to them,
    looks like, and not your stated observations.Hmmmm.....



    They treat me as the west treats Putin.

    And they're furious that you, Scall or broadly, Trump, speak to me.


    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/in-phone-call-with-putin-trump-abruptly-ends-u-s-efforts-to-isolate-russia











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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sun Feb 23 20:54:06 2025
    On 2/23/2025 6:03 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <[email protected]> writes:

    On 2/23/25 2:07 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <[email protected]> writes:

    On 2/23/25 12:45 PM, *skriptis wrote:
    Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
    Yeah, I wondered where the connection to warfare came from that
    jd and pelle injected into the discussion.The saying here is
    "from out of left field".
    I guess they think Putin thought that by dealing with one issue he
    would solve another one.
    ;)
    But hey, it's jdeluise and Pelle.
    The points they make is kinda like?
    https://youtu.be/fnHoKJTty5o?feature=shared
    Sacrifice your 8 minutes to watch this episode, this Czechoslovak
    cartoon is iconic, my childhood favourite really, among many. I'd
    say it's as different from others as Fabrice Santoro of all the
    cartoons I watched and liked.
    (It's stop motion animated actually.)

    Avoidable self-inflicted problems that are compounded by more
    ill-advised remedies?

    It's interesting to note that neither of them actually responded to
    your answer to Scall's question; they responded to my reply to you.

    It was my *reply* that got to them, looks like, and not your stated
    observations.

    Hmmmm.....
    To be fair, neither did you besides giving him the weekly handjob.

    You only need to be fair to people who will reciprocate.

    It's how you can tell friends from enemies, j.

    That you know all this I'm sure of. I've never understood, in all
    these years, is why you actively try *hard* make enemies out of
    potential friends.

    As I've said before, I don't need to come to an anonymous text forum to
    "make friends".  I don't need more friends and I find real life ones
    more engaging and valuable?  usenet is for us to engage with others in lively debate and utilize our freedom of speech in ways that are
    restricted on most other platforms.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Mon Feb 24 12:25:11 2025
    On 23/02/2025 21.10, Sawfish wrote:
    Yeah, I wondered where the connection to warfare came from that jd and
    pelle injected into the discussion.

    The connection comes from skriptis starting this by talking about
    Ukraine being the non-FO accomplishment needed to be taken back. That's
    what the war is about, no? So, Scall asked "what else?".

    The answer is: more of the same. Es ist not vollbracht yet.

    That's what Putin's Make Russia Great Again is about. A zero-sum
    interpretation of geopolitics: "You pullski NATO out, and we'll fillski
    the vacuum". This was stated at the outset. Clear as a whistle.

    Trump, the mediator who mediates between Putin and the mediator, called
    Ukraine a "genious move". He could yet deliver what Putin couldn't.

    Replacement theories could not be further removed from what skriptis
    started. Or anything. It's just doing the bonding thing over something
    (what you guys consider) warm and fuzzy.

    HTH.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 26 02:29:38 2025
    Sawfish kirjoitti 22.2.2025 klo 20.20:
    I think that this is very interesting and a playful literary conceit to compare Nadal with Russia.

    Seems like a desperately forced parallel...

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 26 03:17:36 2025
    Sawfish kirjoitti 26.2.2025 klo 2.35:
    On 2/25/25 4:29 PM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 22.2.2025 klo 20.20:
    I think that this is very interesting and a playful literary conceit
    to compare Nadal with Russia.

    Seems like a desperately forced parallel...

    "playful"

    Desperately playful.

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