TT kirjoitti 18.1.2025 klo 16.21:

PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 18.1.2025 klo 15.02:

But now I know, thanks to the senator

https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

:)))

We know the real reason why tik tok is "dangerous"... it disturbs the US social media hegemony & ad dollars.

Biden administration has been nothing but criminal with their China propaganda & trade war.

They even made a law which allows them to fund media propaganda against China's belt & road initiatives worldwide.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/china-cold-war-2669160202/

That's pure evil.

Another remarkable issue is US sanctioning advanced 5nm chip sales to
China because "military reasons". This means that Taiwanese TSMC can't
sell its chips 10 km distance to China. Also Dutch ASML can't sell their
most advanced lithography machines to China.
...Meanwhile for example American Qualcomm has been getting permits to
sell 5nm chips to Chinese Xiaomi phones. Chips produced by ASML's
machines in Taiwan...

Also meanwhile US is designing/manufacturing AI controlled drone swarms.
Also, the excuse about military reasons doesn't really hold water, it's
not like you need a 5nm chip for a drone... phone more like. It's about
phone (chip) sales & technology competition.

Yet US is losing the chip war... https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/tech-news-xiaomi-launch-self-developed-3nm-soc-chip-2025-gishc

This is in due to sanctions, US has forced China to innovate. The losers
in this mess are in the end Taiwanese TSMC & especially dutch ASML.

"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend
is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 18.1.2025 klo 15.02:

But now I know, thanks to the senator

https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

:)))

We know the real reason why tik tok is "dangerous"... it disturbs the US
social media hegemony & ad dollars.

Biden administration has been nothing but criminal with their China
propaganda & trade war.

They even made a law which allows them to fund media propaganda against
China's belt & road initiatives worldwide.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/china-cold-war-2669160202/

That's pure evil.

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Sawfish kirjoitti 18.1.2025 klo 19.03:

On 1/18/25 5:02 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

But now I know, thanks to the senator

https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

I can see his point, and I would guess that all other major vendors can
do this, too.

So the reason TikTok is singled out is because it's Chinese owned. And
this is because we can trust Zuckerberg, but not the Chinese.

I trust Apple 100%. That's why I gave them my credit card number. And
because I couldn't access the FREE iCloud otherwise.
I also trust Google, youtube, Twitter, Microsoft etc not to give all my internet history & personal information to NSA. I wish.

Zuckerberg seems like a very trustworthy character though, for a liquid
based lifeform from Gamma Quadrant.

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PeteWasLucky <[email protected]> wrote:

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But now I know, thanks to the senator https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

I never follow links to fucking TikTok.

People, wake up! China is one of the worst shithole
countries in existence. It is a real stinker to
be sure! Do some research about this horrible country.

I feel like a fucking shitty hypocrite because I have
a fucking Lenovo laptop... :-(

Apart from that, I never purchase Chinese products!

br,
KK

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On 1/18/2025 3:04 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

PeteWasLucky <[email protected]> wrote:

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But now I know, thanks to the senator
https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

I never follow links to fucking TikTok.

Pisses me off when people send me web links to any social web-sight via
text or email. I always ignore and delete the link. No need for that
cookie tracking shit on my devices...
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On 1/18/2025 11:03 AM, Sawfish wrote:

On 1/18/25 5:02 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

But now I know, thanks to the senator

https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

I can see his point, and I would guess that all other major vendors can
do this, too.

So the reason TikTok is singled out is because it's Chinese owned. And
this is because we can trust Zuckerberg, but not the Chinese.

You nailed it on the head! Apple, Meta, Google, Microsoft, etc. are
based in the USA, so they are allowed to do EU illegal data sharing and
the lobbied members of the USA government smile and put the $$ in their pockets...
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Scall5

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In article <vmgnee$10442$[email protected]>,
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/18/25 5:02 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

But now I know, thanks to the senator

https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

I can see his point, and I would guess that all other major vendors can
do this, too.

So the reason TikTok is singled out is because it's Chinese owned. And
this is because we can trust Zuckerberg, but not the Chinese.

We can trust neither, but I don't think Zuckerberg is a threat as much as the Chinese.

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In article <mp9jP.30$[email protected]>, Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote: >On 1/19/25 7:49 AM, bmoore wrote:

In article <vmgnee$10442$[email protected]>,
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:

On 1/18/25 5:02 AM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

But now I know, thanks to the senator

https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/video/7461006334352182571

I can see his point, and I would guess that all other major vendors can
do this, too.

So the reason TikTok is singled out is because it's Chinese owned. And
this is because we can trust Zuckerberg, but not the Chinese.

We can trust neither, but I don't think Zuckerberg is a threat as much as the Chinese.

They are threats in different areas. I less comfortable having
Zuckerberg's company tapping my personal wifi system,

Sure, but I wouldn't want Chinese companies doing it either. Maybe even moreso.

and less
comfortable with the potential for China to winnow out international >espionage.

Which is why I'd be more concerned about the Chinese. The Chinese government has a lot of control over their
companies, and the Chinese government is quite nasty. I don't buy that American tech companies are on a par
with them.

Reading back where I wrote that "we can trust Zuckerberg, but not the >Chinese", I meant that facetiously. Neither party is trustworthy.

Yes, I deduced that, Saw :-)

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On 1/18/2025 11:06 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Scall5 <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r

On 1/18/2025 3:04 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> PeteWasLucky <[email protected]> wrote:>> [-- text/plain, size 0.2K, charset windows-1252, 12 lines, encoding 7bit --]>>>> But now I know, thanks to the senator>> https://www.tiktok.com/@cnetdotcom/

video/7461006334352182571> > I never follow links to fucking TikTok.Pisses me off when people send me web links to any social web-sight via text or email. I always ignore and delete the link. No need for that cookie tracking shit on my devices...-- ------
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lol, you guys are something :)

I hope you both used a VPN on Mars before posting here otherwise everything can be tracked back to you. Oh wait, Musk owns the Mars VPN :)

So tell me Scall5 what exactly happens when you click on a link for a TikTok video?
Maybe I am missing something.

Kalevi can help.

Let's start a decent discussion.

Unauthorized cookies for starters. Can be downhill from there.
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