Mousey (Naomi Osaka) loses to Elise Mertens in straight sets at the Canadian Open and the crowd/Tennis Channel was crying enough tears to fill Lake Erie.Glad the Toronto area isn't suffering from any droughts after this horrific loss for their loud-mouthed politically lesser-minded former tennis champ...Just my two cents...-- ---------------Scall5
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I think it's different here in the Anglo west,
skript.
I don't perceive any great popular affinity for
race-mixing--after all, my own daughter is bi-racial and I can
see how she and any similar racially mixed friends are generally
viewed. It's either neutral or slightly negatively, with a few
note-worthy exceptions.
No, what's going on here is that she's viewed as
black, and no Caucasian can do anything other than treat blacks
as simply precious little children when in public. In fact, many
white people try outdo each other in praise and awe when
publicly speaking about black people; this is of course an
example of virtue signaling.
It's that simple.
Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
On
I think it's different here in the Anglo west,
skript.
I don't perceive any great popular affinity for
race-mixing--after all, my own daughter is bi-racial and I can
see how she and any similar racially mixed friends are generally
viewed. It's either neutral or slightly negatively, with a few
note-worthy exceptions.
No, what's going on here is that she's viewed as
black, and no Caucasian can do anything other than treat blacks
as simply precious little children when in public. In fact, many
white people try outdo each other in praise and awe when
publicly speaking about black people; this is of course an
example of virtue signaling.
It's that simple.
But I don't understand that.
If anything, there should be a sense of guilt towards the redskins in America?
It's theirs land you've stolen, occupied, exploited and taken for yourself.
It's them whom you've genocided and ethnically cleansed from most of the continent and reduced them to extremely small numbers in isolated areas.
It's theirs people that barely exist nowadays.
Blacks are not the victims at all, they're co-participants with whites in this huge project of land theft.
I guess you could argue that their ancestors (ancestors of US blacks) were the victims being brought as slaves, however that one is doubtful too.
Being a slave under a Christian rule was probably better than being in a jungle or savannah with lions and other wild beats, diseases and your fellow Africans who were cannibals and who were the ones who actually captured you and sold you to slavery?
I won't go into this stuff really, but slavery has existed throughout history, I am sure 19th century slave in the US had it better than some slave in Europe in medieval era or during antiquity or a Christian slave under Moslem yoke.
I mean have black slaves in the US ever fought to death to amuse their masters, like Roman slaves who were forced to do that in Colosseum?
Was that happening?
So my points are:human rights (from present day point of view) or even a life quality in that time.
Yes slavery is bad, but let's get real. Black slaves in the US were probably the most privileged slaves in history across all cultures.
Not only that, unlike most of other cases, their base or starting position was really extremely bad (life in Africa among wild beats and fellow Africans who ate humans) that in some ways you could hardly interpret their slavery as an enormous loss of
It's still bad, and I will say it was wrong to remove them from their natural habitat regardless of whether you brought an improvement or worsening to them, as I'm kinda Star Trek Prime Directive adherent, but realistically it might have been even animprovement in their case.
And it's definitely a blessing for their descendants nowadays who found themselves in a more prosperous country compared to any African country they might be nowadays in.
So blacks should pay to the descendants of whites who brought them to America.
However having said all that, I fail to see what a Haitian black (Osaka's father) has to do with USA?
What is it that "you" might owe him?
He's not ab American, nor a black from US.
He's from Haiti.
Haiti has a nigger revolt in 1804, they killed all the French overlords and broke free becoming a free nation. They've enjoyed freedom and sovereignty for the past 220 years.
At least in the 60s or 70s, in counterculture efforts there has been a focus on native Americans, however nowadays it's all about blacks and race mixing.
The "our people and our soil" theme has deemed to racist and obsolete so not even the redskins get to talk in those terms, no?
On 8/11/2024 1:35 AM, *skriptis wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
Why am I not seeing Sawfish's posts? I am using eternal-september and Thunderbird.
On 8/11/2024 1:35 AM, *skriptis wrote:> Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:>>>>>> >> >> >> >> On>> I think it's different here in the Anglo west,>> skript.>> I don't perceive any great popular affinityexceptions.>> No, what's going on here is that she's viewed as>> black, and no Caucasian can do anything other than treat blacks>> as simply precious little children when in public. In fact, many>> white people try outdo
race-mixing--after all, my own daughter is bi-racial and I can>> see how she and any similar racially mixed friends are generally>> viewed. It's either neutral or slightly negatively, with a few>> note-worthy
As of 2 minutes ago I am now seeing his posts again. Odd.--
On 8/11/2024 1:35 AM, *skriptis wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> Wrote in message:
On
I think it's different here in the Anglo west,
skript.
I don't perceive any great popular affinity for
race-mixing--after all, my own daughter is bi-racial and I can
see how she and any similar racially mixed friends are
generally
viewed. It's either neutral or slightly negatively, with a few
note-worthy exceptions.
No, what's going on here is that she's viewed as
black, and no Caucasian can do anything other than treat blacks
as simply precious little children when in public. In fact,
many
white people try outdo each other in praise and awe when >>> publicly speaking about black people; this is of course an >>> example of virtue signaling.
It's that simple.
But I don't understand that.
If anything, there should be a sense of guilt towards the redskins in
America?
It's theirs land you've stolen, occupied, exploited and taken for
yourself.
It's them whom you've genocided and ethnically cleansed from most of
the continent and reduced them to extremely small numbers in isolated
areas.
It's theirs people that barely exist nowadays.
Blacks are not the victims at all, they're co-participants with whites
in this huge project of land theft.
I guess you could argue that their ancestors (ancestors of US blacks)
were the victims being brought as slaves, however that one is doubtful
too.
Being a slave under a Christian rule was probably better than being in
a jungle or savannah with lions and other wild beats, diseases and
your fellow Africans who were cannibals and who were the ones who
actually captured you and sold you to slavery?
I won't go into this stuff really, but slavery has existed throughout
history, I am sure 19th century slave in the US had it better than
some slave in Europe in medieval era or during antiquity or a
Christian slave under Moslem yoke.
I mean have black slaves in the US ever fought to death to amuse their
masters, like Roman slaves who were forced to do that in Colosseum?
Was that happening?
So my points are:
Yes slavery is bad, but let's get real. Black slaves in the US were
probably the most privileged slaves in history across all cultures.
Not only that, unlike most of other cases, their base or starting
position was really extremely bad (life in Africa among wild beats and
fellow Africans who ate humans) that in some ways you could hardly
interpret their slavery as an enormous loss of human rights (from
present day point of view) or even a life quality in that time.
It's still bad, and I will say it was wrong to remove them from their
natural habitat regardless of whether you brought an improvement or
worsening to them, as I'm kinda Star Trek Prime Directive adherent,
but realistically it might have been even an improvement in their case.
And it's definitely a blessing for their descendants nowadays who
found themselves in a more prosperous country compared to any African
country they might be nowadays in.
So blacks should pay to the descendants of whites who brought them to
America.
However having said all that, I fail to see what a Haitian black
(Osaka's father) has to do with USA?
What is it that "you" might owe him?
He's not ab American, nor a black from US.
He's from Haiti.
Haiti has a nigger revolt in 1804, they killed all the French
overlords and broke free becoming a free nation. They've enjoyed
freedom and sovereignty for the past 220 years.
At least in the 60s or 70s, in counterculture efforts there has been a
focus on native Americans, however nowadays it's all about blacks and
race mixing.
The "our people and our soil" theme has deemed to racist and obsolete
so not even the redskins get to talk in those terms, no?
Why am I not seeing Sawfish's posts? I am using eternal-september and Thunderbird.
Sawfish <[email protected]> writes:
I've suspected this for a while.
I'm using XLned as the NTTP server and Tbird.
I'll try eternal-september again, maybe.
You've been sending a lot of multipart messages (html and text) lately.
It's not exactly welcomed on text-based groups. Perhaps
eternal-september is filtering them out.
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