Disgusting.
HS SIGNED UP on Ylilauta's paid side, which enables, among other things, reading old writings. On "Ylilauta", every thread created by the
author is anonymous and individual threads cannot be connected to a
specific user.
When the suspect had not yet been detained, the discussions were filled
with speculation. On Ylilauta, there is a conversation in which the perpetrator is suspected to be of foreign or Ukrainian background.
From the first day, chatters also speculated about the name of the
victim, sent pictures of different girls in threads and commented on
their appearance.
The fact that some of the commentators blame the victim for what
happened says a lot about Ylilauta's attitude atmosphere.
"I don't see how it's safe for women to walk alone after 9 p.m. Of
course, you'll be responsible for the consequences," wrote one.
Distrust of the police is also expressed in the threads. Speculation
about the perpetrator continued, even though the police quickly said
that the person arrested for the crime does not have a foreign background.
When news media released photos of the suspect from the custody
proceedings, some writers believed he was wearing light-colored rubber gloves. Many would like to see the suspect's face.
The death has sparked a lot of political discussion at Ylilauta. Most of
it is related to immigration policy.
SOME of Ylilauta's panelists have also expressed sorrow for the victim.
https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000010463545.html
An excerpt from a translation of an article in "HS" by google translate. Slightly cleaned up by me, myself, and I.
The background is this. A while ago, a teen aged girl was raped and
murdered after spending a weekend evening with friends. The alleged perp
is a local basement dweller who apparently had earlier expressed a
desire to "strangle women" on some social media forum. Possibly on this "Ylilauta" thing. A social media outfit in which Finland's finest seem
to hang out.
The finest of Finland want to pin this on immigrants for their own
paltry soapbox purposes! Lol. And blame the victim for her fate! Would
you fucking believe. Does what these little trolls do on "Ylilauta"
reflect on Finnskies in general? It sure does.
Disgusting.
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
KK, I've read many of your posts since you've been here. You are a very upfront, stand up guy, in my opinion, although we certainly would not
agree in many areas.
But so what?
I'm not greatly into putting people into pigeonhole, at least not
firmly, but over a period of time people tend to categorize themselves somewhat. I would like to inquire if you know what libertarianism is in
the US, have you had any contact with it, and if so, do you feel that it
has influenced your thinking on political matters?
No tricks here, KK.
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
On 8.6.2024 20.54, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Is that an excuse for something? You don't think it's disgusting to
a) blame the victim?
b) blame others for what they have nothing to do with?
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants. 60% in Germany. That statistic doesn't include citizens with foreign background.
There were 149 bombings in Sweden in 2023. Wonder what's gotten into
Swedes these days... it used to be one of the safest countries in the
world.
P.S. Kalevi... sitten huomenna äänestämään EU vaaleissa eikös vaan.
Persut ainoita jotka tekevät jotain maahanmuuton eteen tai yleensä edes ajavat Suomen etua.
TT <[email protected]> wrote:
P.S. Kalevi... sitten huomenna äänestämään EU vaaleissa eikös vaan.
En äänestä ketään, heheh!
Persut ainoita jotka tekevät jotain maahanmuuton eteen tai yleensä edes
ajavat Suomen etua.
Juu, mutta persuissa on muuten niin tyhmiä juntteja liikaa
ettei sitä hermot kestä. Kannatan esimerkiksi kaikkien
huumeiden laillistamista sillä edellytyksellä, että *valtio*
ottaa myynnin itsellään monopolina täsmälleen kuten alkoholihuumeenkin suhteen toimitaan.
Persujen huumepolitiikka on umpimielistä ja tieteen vastaista.
Persut on myös rikkoneet vaalilupauksensa olla leikkaamatta
köyhiltä.
br,
KK
On 6/8/24 11:33 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:
KK, I've read many of your posts since you've been here. You are a very >>> upfront, stand up guy, in my opinion, although we certainly would notI only know the basics of libertarianism in the US and I
agree in many areas.
But so what?
I'm not greatly into putting people into pigeonhole, at least not
firmly, but over a period of time people tend to categorize themselves
somewhat. I would like to inquire if you know what libertarianism is in
the US, have you had any contact with it, and if so, do you feel that it >>> has influenced your thinking on political matters?
No tricks here, KK.
do not support it. I believe in a pretty strong state and a
certain amount of socialism (free healthcare to everyone,
strong support for the unemployed). The US political model
is something to despise as it is totally Darwinist and
cold towards your fellow citizens. In the US, money is all
that matters.
I am not a political person, I hate and despise all politicians,
left or right. They are just a bunch of narcissist, corrupted
crooks.
Truth be told, I hate having to deal with political issues
but the world being the way it is, you have to have a certain
interest in what's going on because those bastard politicians
create e.g. many unjust laws that make no sense.
We have some kind of EU elections now in Europe but I
refuse to vote because I do not trust anyone in politics.
br,
KK
OK, this is clear.
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized city,
do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that you would
meet out walking on the street, or on public transit, or simply in most neighborhoods that you might drive thru going from on place to another
in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and foremost in
your mind?
Since about 2012 or so it's been increasingly necessary to be wary in
most public spaces, even in known neighborhoods.
Maybe that's a big part of the difference between here and Finland.
On 6/8/24 11:33 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:
KK, I've read many of your posts since you've been here. You are a very >>> upfront, stand up guy, in my opinion, although we certainly would notI only know the basics of libertarianism in the US and I
agree in many areas.
But so what?
I'm not greatly into putting people into pigeonhole, at least not
firmly, but over a period of time people tend to categorize themselves
somewhat. I would like to inquire if you know what libertarianism is in
the US, have you had any contact with it, and if so, do you feel that it >>> has influenced your thinking on political matters?
No tricks here, KK.
do not support it. I believe in a pretty strong state and a
certain amount of socialism (free healthcare to everyone,
strong support for the unemployed). The US political model
is something to despise as it is totally Darwinist and
cold towards your fellow citizens. In the US, money is all
that matters.
I am not a political person, I hate and despise all politicians,
left or right. They are just a bunch of narcissist, corrupted
crooks.
Truth be told, I hate having to deal with political issues
but the world being the way it is, you have to have a certain
interest in what's going on because those bastard politicians
create e.g. many unjust laws that make no sense.
We have some kind of EU elections now in Europe but I
refuse to vote because I do not trust anyone in politics.
br,
KK
OK, this is clear.
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized city,
do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that you would
meet out walking on the street,
or on public transit, or simply in most
neighborhoods that you might drive thru going from on place to another
in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and foremost in
your mind?
Since about 2012 or so it's been increasingly necessary to be wary in
most public spaces, even in known neighborhoods.
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8.6.2024 20.54, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Is that an excuse for something? You don't think it's disgusting to
a) blame the victim?
Yeah, I think it is disgusting.
b) blame others for what they have nothing to do with?
I don't know what you're referring to but sounds
wrong.
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants.
On 9.6.2024 1.29, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/8/24 11:33 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:
KK, I've read many of your posts since you've been here. You are aI only know the basics of libertarianism in the US and I
very
upfront, stand up guy, in my opinion, although we certainly would not
agree in many areas.
But so what?
I'm not greatly into putting people into pigeonhole, at least not
firmly, but over a period of time people tend to categorize themselves >>>> somewhat. I would like to inquire if you know what libertarianism is in >>>> the US, have you had any contact with it, and if so, do you feel
that it
has influenced your thinking on political matters?
No tricks here, KK.
do not support it. I believe in a pretty strong state and a
certain amount of socialism (free healthcare to everyone,
strong support for the unemployed). The US political model
is something to despise as it is totally Darwinist and
cold towards your fellow citizens. In the US, money is all
that matters.
I am not a political person, I hate and despise all politicians,
left or right. They are just a bunch of narcissist, corrupted
crooks.
Truth be told, I hate having to deal with political issues
but the world being the way it is, you have to have a certain
interest in what's going on because those bastard politicians
create e.g. many unjust laws that make no sense.
We have some kind of EU elections now in Europe but I
refuse to vote because I do not trust anyone in politics.
br,
KK
OK, this is clear.
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized
city, do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that you
would meet out walking on the street,
Absolutely. The only exception is the destitute Finn that is under the influence. These are ALWAYS Finnish natives. Those are relatively rare
though and you can easily spot them from afar. You can also spot whether
they are on an upper/downer/psychedelia dosage or on a 20 year beer
binge. You simply avoid contact. They practically never approach you. If
they do, make it as normal an encounter as possible and you're cool.
This applies to any neighbourhood too. Well, ok, I don't visit some of
the burbs because I simply don't need to visit them. Some have better
reps, some worse. I have no idea what the reps would be based on.
Neither do I wander around intoxicated during the closing hours of dives
in the centre.
Choose your neighbourhood and pals wisely and you stay out of trouble.
The perp and the victim almost always know each other. It also helps if
the society invests in the homeless. Keep the numbers down, and you
don't get harassed. Detention camps aren't a solution. It's much better
to solve social problems with social programs pre-emptively than with
SWAT teams and military grade equipment after the fact.
or on public transit, or simply in most neighborhoods that you might
drive thru going from on place to another in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and foremost in
your mind?
Relaxed. Absolutely. Can't recall if I've ever been harassed in my life.
Since about 2012 or so it's been increasingly necessary to be wary in
most public spaces, even in known neighborhoods.
That's probably not true even in the US. Without even checking anything,
my guess is that violent crime, assaults, etc are now going down after
the pandemic. Long term trends were down last I checked.
But crime is blared 24/7 in the Fox. As it is in the Finnish tabloids.
It sells. If you don't have enuff homegrown crime, you report Swedish
stuff.
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.03:
On 9.6.2024 1.29, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/8/24 11:33 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:
KK, I've read many of your posts since you've been here. You are aI only know the basics of libertarianism in the US and I
very
upfront, stand up guy, in my opinion, although we certainly would not >>>>> agree in many areas.
But so what?
I'm not greatly into putting people into pigeonhole, at least not
firmly, but over a period of time people tend to categorize themselves >>>>> somewhat. I would like to inquire if you know what libertarianism
is in
the US, have you had any contact with it, and if so, do you feel
that it
has influenced your thinking on political matters?
No tricks here, KK.
do not support it. I believe in a pretty strong state and a
certain amount of socialism (free healthcare to everyone,
strong support for the unemployed). The US political model
is something to despise as it is totally Darwinist and
cold towards your fellow citizens. In the US, money is all
that matters.
I am not a political person, I hate and despise all politicians,
left or right. They are just a bunch of narcissist, corrupted
crooks.
Truth be told, I hate having to deal with political issues
but the world being the way it is, you have to have a certain
interest in what's going on because those bastard politicians
create e.g. many unjust laws that make no sense.
We have some kind of EU elections now in Europe but I
refuse to vote because I do not trust anyone in politics.
br,
KK
OK, this is clear.
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized
city, do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that you
would meet out walking on the street,
Absolutely. The only exception is the destitute Finn that is under the
influence. These are ALWAYS Finnish natives. Those are relatively rare
though and you can easily spot them from afar. You can also spot
whether they are on an upper/downer/psychedelia dosage or on a 20 year
beer binge. You simply avoid contact. They practically never approach
you. If they do, make it as normal an encounter as possible and you're
cool.
This applies to any neighbourhood too. Well, ok, I don't visit some of
the burbs because I simply don't need to visit them. Some have better
reps, some worse. I have no idea what the reps would be based on.
Neither do I wander around intoxicated during the closing hours of
dives in the centre.
Choose your neighbourhood and pals wisely and you stay out of trouble.
The perp and the victim almost always know each other. It also helps
if the society invests in the homeless. Keep the numbers down, and you
don't get harassed. Detention camps aren't a solution. It's much
better to solve social problems with social programs pre-emptively
than with SWAT teams and military grade equipment after the fact.
or on public transit, or simply in most neighborhoods that you might
drive thru going from on place to another in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and foremost
in your mind?
Relaxed. Absolutely. Can't recall if I've ever been harassed in my life.
Since about 2012 or so it's been increasingly necessary to be wary in
most public spaces, even in known neighborhoods.
That's probably not true even in the US. Without even checking
anything, my guess is that violent crime, assaults, etc are now going
down after the pandemic. Long term trends were down last I checked.
But crime is blared 24/7 in the Fox. As it is in the Finnish tabloids.
It sells. If you don't have enuff homegrown crime, you report Swedish
stuff.
You live in a quiet town in Finnish West Coast where there is hardly any menap immigration but lots of Finnish Swedes so you know nothing. And
you're not a Finn so even if you lived in capital region you wouldn't be
able to compare then vs now.
On 9.6.2024 12.27, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.03:
On 9.6.2024 1.29, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/8/24 11:33 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:
KK, I've read many of your posts since you've been here. You are a >>>>>> veryI only know the basics of libertarianism in the US and I
upfront, stand up guy, in my opinion, although we certainly would not >>>>>> agree in many areas.
But so what?
I'm not greatly into putting people into pigeonhole, at least not
firmly, but over a period of time people tend to categorize
themselves
somewhat. I would like to inquire if you know what libertarianism
is in
the US, have you had any contact with it, and if so, do you feel
that it
has influenced your thinking on political matters?
No tricks here, KK.
do not support it. I believe in a pretty strong state and a
certain amount of socialism (free healthcare to everyone,
strong support for the unemployed). The US political model
is something to despise as it is totally Darwinist and
cold towards your fellow citizens. In the US, money is all
that matters.
I am not a political person, I hate and despise all politicians,
left or right. They are just a bunch of narcissist, corrupted
crooks.
Truth be told, I hate having to deal with political issues
but the world being the way it is, you have to have a certain
interest in what's going on because those bastard politicians
create e.g. many unjust laws that make no sense.
We have some kind of EU elections now in Europe but I
refuse to vote because I do not trust anyone in politics.
br,
KK
OK, this is clear.
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized
city, do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that
you would meet out walking on the street,
Absolutely. The only exception is the destitute Finn that is under
the influence. These are ALWAYS Finnish natives. Those are relatively
rare though and you can easily spot them from afar. You can also spot
whether they are on an upper/downer/psychedelia dosage or on a 20
year beer binge. You simply avoid contact. They practically never
approach you. If they do, make it as normal an encounter as possible
and you're cool.
This applies to any neighbourhood too. Well, ok, I don't visit some
of the burbs because I simply don't need to visit them. Some have
better reps, some worse. I have no idea what the reps would be based
on. Neither do I wander around intoxicated during the closing hours
of dives in the centre.
Choose your neighbourhood and pals wisely and you stay out of
trouble. The perp and the victim almost always know each other. It
also helps if the society invests in the homeless. Keep the numbers
down, and you don't get harassed. Detention camps aren't a solution.
It's much better to solve social problems with social programs
pre-emptively than with SWAT teams and military grade equipment after
the fact.
or on public transit, or simply in most neighborhoods that you might
drive thru going from on place to another in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and foremost
in your mind?
Relaxed. Absolutely. Can't recall if I've ever been harassed in my life. >>>
Since about 2012 or so it's been increasingly necessary to be wary
in most public spaces, even in known neighborhoods.
That's probably not true even in the US. Without even checking
anything, my guess is that violent crime, assaults, etc are now going
down after the pandemic. Long term trends were down last I checked.
But crime is blared 24/7 in the Fox. As it is in the Finnish
tabloids. It sells. If you don't have enuff homegrown crime, you
report Swedish stuff.
You live in a quiet town in Finnish West Coast where there is hardly
any menap immigration but lots of Finnish Swedes so you know nothing.
And you're not a Finn so even if you lived in capital region you
wouldn't be able to compare then vs now.
A Tiny Tim response.
On 8.6.2024 21.21, TT wrote:
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants.
The true number is ~ 30%. Still over-represented, fine, but the
headlines are with a smaller font. BTW, these are rape SUSPECTS. The
majority of rapes aren't even reported, they're committed by hubbies. Of those that are reported, a significant number is false. I have no idea
how convictions are distributed. I haven't yet heard of a rape/murder by
a foreign born. I guess when that happens, you can say foreign born
commit 100% of those.
Stats are wonderful.
TT <[email protected]> wrote:
P.S. Kalevi... sitten huomenna äänestämään EU vaaleissa eikös vaan.
En äänestä ketään, heheh!
Persut ainoita jotka tekevät jotain maahanmuuton eteen tai yleensä edes
ajavat Suomen etua.
Juu, mutta persuissa on muuten niin tyhmiä juntteja liikaa
ettei sitä hermot kestä. Kannatan esimerkiksi kaikkien
huumeiden laillistamista sillä edellytyksellä, että *valtio*
ottaa myynnin itsellään monopolina täsmälleen kuten alkoholihuumeenkin suhteen toimitaan.
Persujen huumepolitiikka on umpimielistä ja tieteen vastaista.
Persut on myös rikkoneet vaalilupauksensa olla leikkaamatta
köyhiltä.
br,
KK
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized city,
do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that you would
meet out walking on the street, or on public transit, or simply in most neighborhoods that you might drive thru going from on place to another
in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and foremost in
your mind?
On 09/06/2024 11:41, TT wrote:
Questionable way to admit that I hit nail on the head.
yes, said few years ago on a daily basis Pelle hardly ever sees any immigrants.
On 09/06/2024 11:41, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 12.44:
On 9.6.2024 12.27, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.03:
On 9.6.2024 1.29, Sawfish wrote:
On 6/8/24 11:33 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:
KK, I've read many of your posts since you've been here. You are >>>>>>>> a veryI only know the basics of libertarianism in the US and I
upfront, stand up guy, in my opinion, although we certainly
would not
agree in many areas.
But so what?
I'm not greatly into putting people into pigeonhole, at least not >>>>>>>> firmly, but over a period of time people tend to categorize
themselves
somewhat. I would like to inquire if you know what
libertarianism is in
the US, have you had any contact with it, and if so, do you feel >>>>>>>> that it
has influenced your thinking on political matters?
No tricks here, KK.
do not support it. I believe in a pretty strong state and a
certain amount of socialism (free healthcare to everyone,
strong support for the unemployed). The US political model
is something to despise as it is totally Darwinist and
cold towards your fellow citizens. In the US, money is all
that matters.
I am not a political person, I hate and despise all politicians, >>>>>>> left or right. They are just a bunch of narcissist, corrupted
crooks.
Truth be told, I hate having to deal with political issues
but the world being the way it is, you have to have a certain
interest in what's going on because those bastard politicians
create e.g. many unjust laws that make no sense.
We have some kind of EU elections now in Europe but I
refuse to vote because I do not trust anyone in politics.
br,
KK
OK, this is clear.
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized >>>>>> city, do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that
you would meet out walking on the street,
Absolutely. The only exception is the destitute Finn that is under
the influence. These are ALWAYS Finnish natives. Those are
relatively rare though and you can easily spot them from afar. You
can also spot whether they are on an upper/downer/psychedelia
dosage or on a 20 year beer binge. You simply avoid contact. They
practically never approach you. If they do, make it as normal an
encounter as possible and you're cool.
This applies to any neighbourhood too. Well, ok, I don't visit some
of the burbs because I simply don't need to visit them. Some have
better reps, some worse. I have no idea what the reps would be
based on. Neither do I wander around intoxicated during the closing
hours of dives in the centre.
Choose your neighbourhood and pals wisely and you stay out of
trouble. The perp and the victim almost always know each other. It
also helps if the society invests in the homeless. Keep the numbers
down, and you don't get harassed. Detention camps aren't a
solution. It's much better to solve social problems with social
programs pre-emptively than with SWAT teams and military grade
equipment after the fact.
or on public transit, or simply in most neighborhoods that you
might drive thru going from on place to another in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and
foremost in your mind?
Relaxed. Absolutely. Can't recall if I've ever been harassed in my
life.
Since about 2012 or so it's been increasingly necessary to be wary >>>>>> in most public spaces, even in known neighborhoods.
That's probably not true even in the US. Without even checking
anything, my guess is that violent crime, assaults, etc are now
going down after the pandemic. Long term trends were down last I
checked.
But crime is blared 24/7 in the Fox. As it is in the Finnish
tabloids. It sells. If you don't have enuff homegrown crime, you
report Swedish stuff.
You live in a quiet town in Finnish West Coast where there is hardly
any menap immigration but lots of Finnish Swedes so you know
nothing. And you're not a Finn so even if you lived in capital
region you wouldn't be able to compare then vs now.
A Tiny Tim response.
Questionable way to admit that I hit nail on the head.
yes, said few years ago on a daily basis Pelle hardly ever sees any immigrants.
The Iceberg <[email protected]> wrote:
On 09/06/2024 11:41, TT wrote:
Questionable way to admit that I hit nail on the head.
yes, said few years ago on a daily basis Pelle hardly ever sees any
immigrants.
It is quite fitting that "Pelle" means "a clown"
in Finnish language. This dude Pelle is no real
Finn at all and he should move to Sweden as soon
as possible. That's where he can enjoy the
company of many, many immigrants. Have fun!
Free and friendly tip to Pelle: When you go,
make sure your submachine gun is fully loaded
in order to make it in Sweden! Hahahahahaa! :-)
On 09/06/2024 13:29, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Sawfish <[email protected]> wrote:
Let me ask: by default, when in Finland in any fair or large sized city, >>> do you feel that you can trust most of the individuals that you would
meet out walking on the street, or on public transit, or simply in most
neighborhoods that you might drive thru going from on place to another
in this city?
Me, I don't, although once I did.
Are you basically fairly relaxed or is alertness first and foremost in
your mind?
It is very safe in Finland. I live in Helsinki and I am
not at all afraid when I am out on the streets. We have
lived here for 26 years now.
But my wife has been mugged once by "a culture enricher"
who was likely from Somalia. Despite that, she is not afraid
either.
according to Pelle that was her fault cos she was a drunken Finn!
Be a good Christian.
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.31:
On 8.6.2024 21.21, TT wrote:
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants.
The true number is ~ 30%. Still over-represented, fine, but the
headlines are with a smaller font. BTW, these are rape SUSPECTS. The
majority of rapes aren't even reported, they're committed by hubbies.
Of those that are reported, a significant number is false. I have no
idea how convictions are distributed. I haven't yet heard of a
rape/murder by a foreign born. I guess when that happens, you can say
foreign born commit 100% of those.
Stats are wonderful.
You haven't heard of a rape/murder by a foreign born? That's just
insane, even if you read only HS which on purpose almost never reports
the ethnicity.
Latest stats are hard to find, if even available but first google hit
tells that in 2019 foreigners committed 37.6% of rapes,
otherwise seems
to be around 30% which is massive over-representation. For only African/middle-easterners the stats shoot to the roof. Also has to be
noted that for example dual citizenships are counted as Finns and so
forth...
One group of which there are probably no stats would be Finnish gypsies, which have been here for 500 years but certainly would lead various
crime stats...
As for immigrant background youth... In Helsinki 2022, over 50% of
robberies & violent crimes committed by under 18 year olds were by
immigrant background youths. In Espoo nearly 60%. Underage violence & robberies has "explosive growth" according to police in 2024.
Not to mention immigrant percentages of social security recipients
in
capital district which follow the same pattern.
https://stat.fi/tietotrendit/blogit/2023/yhden-rikos-leimaa-99-nuorta/
In Sweden...
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Be a good Christian.
Now that explains a good part of Pelle's stupidity.
Pelle belongs to the despicable group of christian
*brainslaves*. Hahahahhah!
On 9.6.2024 22.33, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Be a good Christian.
Now that explains a good part of Pelle's stupidity.
Pelle belongs to the despicable group of christian
*brainslaves*. Hahahahhah!
You don't seem to get much of anything.
It is Iceberg who says is a Christian. I am a pagan.
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
On 9.6.2024 22.33, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Be a good Christian.
Now that explains a good part of Pelle's stupidity.
Pelle belongs to the despicable group of christian
*brainslaves*. Hahahahhah!
You don't seem to get much of anything.
It is Iceberg who says is a Christian. I am a pagan.
Then stop pushing christianity and be a man.
You're again out to sea. The point is: if you claim to be a Christian,
live as you was one. The same would apply to any *ism, right?
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
You're again out to sea. The point is: if you claim to be a Christian,
live as you was one. The same would apply to any *ism, right?
You could be right, but the Bible is such a
pathetic mishmash of contradicting teachings
that it can be used to defend both the leftist
and right-wing ideologies.
On 9.6.2024 13.32, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.31:
On 8.6.2024 21.21, TT wrote:
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants.
The true number is ~ 30%. Still over-represented, fine, but the
headlines are with a smaller font. BTW, these are rape SUSPECTS. The
majority of rapes aren't even reported, they're committed by hubbies.
Of those that are reported, a significant number is false. I have no
idea how convictions are distributed. I haven't yet heard of a
rape/murder by a foreign born. I guess when that happens, you can say
foreign born commit 100% of those.
Stats are wonderful.
You haven't heard of a rape/murder by a foreign born? That's just
insane, even if you read only HS which on purpose almost never reports
the ethnicity.
I guess this means you just provided an example. Oh, it didn't ...
Duh.
Latest stats are hard to find, if even available but first google hit
tells that in 2019 foreigners committed 37.6% of rapes,
The 40% number is wrong. It has an error in it. If you've goggled for
it, yu should kow that already. And reported it. But no ...
And again. These are suspects. In the case of rape, the numbers
convicted are a fraction of those suspected. Maybe 1/20 if even that.
But that doesn't seem to interest you.
otherwise seems to be around 30% which is massive over-representation.
For only African/middle-easterners the stats shoot to the roof. Also
has to be noted that for example dual citizenships are counted as
Finns and so forth...
One group of which there are probably no stats would be Finnish
gypsies, which have been here for 500 years but certainly would lead
various crime stats...
Gypsies? Lol. Nobody in Helsinki talks about gypsies! Unless you're of
the granny age, grown up in Hikiä, and was dealt a bad hand in a horse
trade 70 years ago.
As for immigrant background youth... In Helsinki 2022, over 50% of
robberies & violent crimes committed by under 18 year olds were by
immigrant background youths. In Espoo nearly 60%. Underage violence &
robberies has "explosive growth" according to police in 2024.
When the numbers are small, as they likely are of under 18, 5 robberies
show up as a large increase in percentages.
Not to mention immigrant percentages of social security recipients
Why should you worry? When is the last time you had a job?
in capital district which follow the same pattern.
https://stat.fi/tietotrendit/blogit/2023/yhden-rikos-leimaa-99-nuorta/
Duh. It's obvious you don't read your own sources.
This article basically says what I would say and have said all along.
The number of many of these crimes are small. Small differences produce
big changes in percentages. The number of offenders are even smaller,
because these things tend to pile up to a few. AND ...
... that the doings of these few are in NO way representative of the
rest. It even says so in the header! Thanks for posting it. Yet this is
what you chumps imply ALL THE TIME. Not only imply.
In Sweden...
Ok. Sweden again. You guys run out of arguments pertaining to Finland so
you import handpicked problems from where ever. With hypotheticals - the truth of which hinge only on the predetermined assumption that
immigration is the primary driver of "crime" - attached.
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 22.49:
On 9.6.2024 13.32, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.31:
On 8.6.2024 21.21, TT wrote:
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants.
The true number is ~ 30%. Still over-represented, fine, but the
headlines are with a smaller font. BTW, these are rape SUSPECTS. The
majority of rapes aren't even reported, they're committed by
hubbies. Of those that are reported, a significant number is false.
I have no idea how convictions are distributed. I haven't yet heard
of a rape/murder by a foreign born. I guess when that happens, you
can say foreign born commit 100% of those.
Stats are wonderful.
You haven't heard of a rape/murder by a foreign born? That's just
insane, even if you read only HS which on purpose almost never
reports the ethnicity.
I guess this means you just provided an example. Oh, it didn't ...
Duh.
You can not be serious.
Latest stats are hard to find, if even available but first google hit
tells that in 2019 foreigners committed 37.6% of rapes,
The 40% number is wrong. It has an error in it. If you've goggled for
it, yu should kow that already. And reported it. But no ...
And again. These are suspects. In the case of rape, the numbers
convicted are a fraction of those suspected. Maybe 1/20 if even that.
But that doesn't seem to interest you.
I guess immigrants are suspected so often because of racism.
otherwise seems to be around 30% which is massive
over-representation. For only African/middle-easterners the stats
shoot to the roof. Also has to be noted that for example dual
citizenships are counted as Finns and so forth...
One group of which there are probably no stats would be Finnish
gypsies, which have been here for 500 years but certainly would lead
various crime stats...
Gypsies? Lol. Nobody in Helsinki talks about gypsies! Unless you're of
the granny age, grown up in Hikiä, and was dealt a bad hand in a horse
trade 70 years ago.
There we go again, you're not a Finn.
The point was about integration; 500 years in Finland and still not integrated.
As for immigrant background youth... In Helsinki 2022, over 50% of
robberies & violent crimes committed by under 18 year olds were by
immigrant background youths. In Espoo nearly 60%. Underage violence &
robberies has "explosive growth" according to police in 2024.
When the numbers are small, as they likely are of under 18, 5
robberies show up as a large increase in percentages.
Not to mention immigrant percentages of social security recipients
Why should you worry? When is the last time you had a job?
in capital district which follow the same pattern.
https://stat.fi/tietotrendit/blogit/2023/yhden-rikos-leimaa-99-nuorta/
Duh. It's obvious you don't read your own sources.
This article basically says what I would say and have said all along.
The number of many of these crimes are small. Small differences
produce big changes in percentages. The number of offenders are even
smaller, because these things tend to pile up to a few. AND ...
... that the doings of these few are in NO way representative of the
rest. It even says so in the header! Thanks for posting it. Yet this
is what you chumps imply ALL THE TIME. Not only imply.
The numbers are totally statistically representative and consistent as
you can see from the graphs.
But I understand you want to argue about small totals...
basically same
as arguing that there are only 150 bombings per year in Sweden so the immigration policy isn't at fault... not every immigrant throws a
grenade in Sweden!
In Sweden...
Ok. Sweden again. You guys run out of arguments pertaining to Finland
so you import handpicked problems from where ever. With hypotheticals
- the truth of which hinge only on the predetermined assumption that
immigration is the primary driver of "crime" - attached.
So are you trying to argue that immigration is not to blame for
increased rape in Sweden while the stats show it is?
The scope of the definition of rape has changed in Sweden. Is much wider
now. What is a rape in Sweden in 2024 wasn't a rape in Sweden in 2000,
isn't a rape in Finland, etc.
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
The scope of the definition of rape has changed in Sweden. Is much wider
now. What is a rape in Sweden in 2024 wasn't a rape in Sweden in 2000,
isn't a rape in Finland, etc.
Stop polluting Finland with your lies.
It is clear your
agenda is to turn Finland into a shithole like Sweden.
Please leave this country as soon as possible.
TT's rape statistics are quite valid despite what the
sicko leftists say.
On 10.6.2024 21.06, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
TT's rape statistics are quite valid despite what the
sicko leftists say.
You need to put some effort into this if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise, stay away.
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 10.6.2024 klo 22.01:> Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:>> On 10.6.2024 21.06, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:>>>>>> TT's rape statistics are quite valid despite what the>>> sicko leftists say.>>>> You need to put some effortinto this if you want to be taken seriously.>> Otherwise, stay away.> > Immigrants are much more likely to be fucking rapists> in some many countries that it is even amazing. The> stupid sicko leftists cannot handle the sad truth,> but instead they start
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
On 10.6.2024 21.06, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
TT's rape statistics are quite valid despite what the
sicko leftists say.
You need to put some effort into this if you want to be taken seriously.
Otherwise, stay away.
Immigrants are much more likely to be fucking rapists
in some many countries that it is even amazing. The
stupid sicko leftists cannot handle the sad truth,
but instead they start their pathetic whining and
lying. They even discredit perfectly valid stats
in order to spread their sick lies.
We will not allow polluting our dear home country
with stupish Swedish lies. We in Finland see clearly
what has happened to Sweden... And we rightfully
despise Sweden now. Hahahahaa!
When the immigration critics tried to get heard
in Sweden, they were rudely silenced like in
a true dictatorship. None of their criticisms
were taken seriously and the immigration critics
were all labeled as "racists". That's the
truth even though Pelle ("a clown") hates it.
Then the shit hit the fan and Sweden is now
a total fucking shithole without any hope of
healing. Seeing that the immigration critics
were right all along, the Swedish equivalent of
Finnish Kokoomus was forced to make a fucking
*public apology*. They actually admitted their
mistake because they had no other choice. Hahah!
They said something like: "Sorry, we should have
listened to you". Normally politicians never ever
admit any of their mistakes. But Sweden is now
such a shithole that facts can no longer be
hidden from the public!
Pelle, you are not a real Finn by any means, so
please gather your belongings and return to
fucking Sweden. That's where you belong. I guess
some people could still buy your lies there.
br,
KK
On 10.6.2024 1.10, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 22.49:
On 9.6.2024 13.32, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.31:
On 8.6.2024 21.21, TT wrote:
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants.
The true number is ~ 30%. Still over-represented, fine, but the
headlines are with a smaller font. BTW, these are rape SUSPECTS.
The majority of rapes aren't even reported, they're committed by
hubbies. Of those that are reported, a significant number is false.
I have no idea how convictions are distributed. I haven't yet heard
of a rape/murder by a foreign born. I guess when that happens, you
can say foreign born commit 100% of those.
Stats are wonderful.
You haven't heard of a rape/murder by a foreign born? That's just
insane, even if you read only HS which on purpose almost never
reports the ethnicity.
I guess this means you just provided an example. Oh, it didn't ...
Duh.
You can not be serious.
Latest stats are hard to find, if even available but first google
hit tells that in 2019 foreigners committed 37.6% of rapes,
The 40% number is wrong. It has an error in it. If you've goggled for
it, yu should kow that already. And reported it. But no ...
And again. These are suspects. In the case of rape, the numbers
convicted are a fraction of those suspected. Maybe 1/20 if even that.
But that doesn't seem to interest you.
I guess immigrants are suspected so often because of racism.
Who knows. This could be. The threshold for reporting the hubby is high.
Much lower for a casual acquaintance, I presume.
There we go again, you're not a Finn.
The point was about integration; 500 years in Finland and still not
integrated.
Well, "certainly woulda coulda lead various stats" as an argument for
not being "integrated" in a 500 year span is not much to write Mommy about.
I guess these types of arguments are winners where you hang out.
What stopped you from being integrated?
The numbers are totally statistically representative and consistent as
you can see from the graphs.
Gibberish.
Read the headline again. The 1 doesn't represent the 99. Except for
those that climb trees PerSu-backwards.
But I understand you want to argue about small totals...
The author of your article says the same. He also notes the difference between suspects, indictments and convictions as I do. What me worry,
I'm in good company. The dumb duck out is you.
"Stats" again? Lol.
You're tossing an age-old canard into the stream hoping to get lucky.
There are studies that say the opposite you say. The gist of it is:
The scope of the definition of rape has changed in Sweden. Is much wider
now. What is a rape in Sweden in 2024 wasn't a rape in Sweden in 2000,
isn't a rape in Finland, etc.
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 10.6.2024 klo 20.00:
On 10.6.2024 1.10, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 22.49:
On 9.6.2024 13.32, TT wrote:
Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 9.6.2024 klo 10.31:
On 8.6.2024 21.21, TT wrote:
Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 8.6.2024 klo 20.54:
Pelle Svanslös <[email protected]> wrote:
Disgusting.
Finland is among the finest countries in the
whole world although, to a some extent, this is
also a shithole country. But most other
countries are even worse shitholes.
Sweden serves as a horrible proof of all things
gone wrong: they accepted so many "ählämis" into
their country that they are now a completely
fucked up society. Bombs go off, criminals rule
the streets using submachine guns and so on.
Finland should not accept any "ählämis" to our
beloved home country. We must learn from the
many mistakes that the stupid Swedes did and
*protect* our country against "ählämization", to
be sure.
If you don't like this, move back to Sweden.
I guess that's where you came from.
br,
KK
Exactly.
40% of rapes in Finland are done by immigrants.
The true number is ~ 30%. Still over-represented, fine, but the
headlines are with a smaller font. BTW, these are rape SUSPECTS.
The majority of rapes aren't even reported, they're committed by
hubbies. Of those that are reported, a significant number is
false. I have no idea how convictions are distributed. I haven't
yet heard of a rape/murder by a foreign born. I guess when that
happens, you can say foreign born commit 100% of those.
Stats are wonderful.
You haven't heard of a rape/murder by a foreign born? That's just
insane, even if you read only HS which on purpose almost never
reports the ethnicity.
I guess this means you just provided an example. Oh, it didn't ...
Duh.
You can not be serious.
Latest stats are hard to find, if even available but first google
hit tells that in 2019 foreigners committed 37.6% of rapes,
The 40% number is wrong. It has an error in it. If you've goggled
for it, yu should kow that already. And reported it. But no ...
And again. These are suspects. In the case of rape, the numbers
convicted are a fraction of those suspected. Maybe 1/20 if even
that. But that doesn't seem to interest you.
I guess immigrants are suspected so often because of racism.
Who knows. This could be. The threshold for reporting the hubby is
high. Much lower for a casual acquaintance, I presume.
Yet same logic doesn't apply to westerners abroad...
There we go again, you're not a Finn.
The point was about integration; 500 years in Finland and still not
integrated.
Well, "certainly woulda coulda lead various stats" as an argument for
not being "integrated" in a 500 year span is not much to write Mommy
about.
I guess these types of arguments are winners where you hang out.
It's a good practical example on failure for integration.
I see you didn't have counter argument.
What stopped you from being integrated?
Isn't it you who managed not to integrate... leaving Britain, then
leaving Sweden and now hating Finland.
The numbers are totally statistically representative and consistent
as you can see from the graphs.
Gibberish.
Read the headline again. The 1 doesn't represent the 99. Except for
those that climb trees PerSu-backwards.
But I understand you want to argue about small totals...
The author of your article says the same. He also notes the difference
between suspects, indictments and convictions as I do. What me worry,
I'm in good company. The dumb duck out is you.
Well of course the politically correct argument for trying to ignore
this demographic problem would be "not everyone does it". It still
doesn't change the existence of the problem.
"Stats" again? Lol.
You're tossing an age-old canard into the stream hoping to get lucky.
There are studies that say the opposite you say. The gist of it is:
There are also studies which say that different races don't exist. That
there are dozens of genders etc. That Vikings were black.
What is factual is that statistics tell us that immigrants from certain countries are more likely to rape/crime. Worldwide phenomenon.
The scope of the definition of rape has changed in Sweden. Is much
wider now. What is a rape in Sweden in 2024 wasn't a rape in Sweden in
2000, isn't a rape in Finland, etc.
See above.
You asked for single example for rape/murder by immigrant in Finland.
Claimed you had never read about one. Well, here's one from today's news:
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010488178.html
On 10.6.2024 22.24, TT wrote:
Well of course the politically correct argument for trying to ignore
this demographic problem would be "not everyone does it". It still
doesn't change the existence of the problem.
If you want to argue for something, don't post articles that clearly
explain why your arguments are doofus arguments. Then blame the same
article for being "politically correct".
Duh!
What is not factual is your claim about Sweden. That it is immigration
that caused the increase in rapes. That is false. It was a change in legislation.
Now that failure is replaced by yet another goal post shift. More unverifiable "stats". By now, it is clear that you lack the wherewithal
to read these stats. A "rape" in Sweden is not a "rape" in Sweden after
all! Oh, noooo!
If you now want to argue that a "rape" in Sweden that wasn't a "rape" in Sweden is a "rape" in Germany ... is a "rape" in Botswana, feel free to provide whatever it is you got.
The scope of the definition of rape has changed in Sweden. Is much
wider now. What is a rape in Sweden in 2024 wasn't a rape in Sweden
in 2000, isn't a rape in Finland, etc.
See above.
You asked for single example for rape/murder by immigrant in Finland.
Claimed you had never read about one. Well, here's one from today's news:
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010488178.html
He gets his due. But the 99 did not do it.
Pelle is well known to be Islamic, yes he's rebelled a bit by smoking
and taking lots of drugs at weekends, but he got really upset when I
kept quoting the Quran at him a few years ago.
Before rocket scientists arrived to here we didn't have any gang rapes.
It was safe to take a taxi, now rapes by cab drivers are very common.
Many women are now afraid to take a cab in Helsinki.
Before doctors, engineers and scientists arrived to Germany there
weren't any beheading. People didn't drive trucks to crowds, killing
school children.
Before cultural enrichment arrived to France there weren't terrorist
attacks on newspapers by religious zealots, or anyone for that matter.
Babies weren't stabbed with a knife at public parks.
Before peace loving refugees arrived to Sweden there weren't bombings at
all. Now there's one every other day.
This, I believe was the first ever terrorist bombing in Sweden;
2010, Stockholm, Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Stockholm_bombings
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