• Re:Doubles players to be banned from sitting down!

    From *skriptis@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Wed Apr 3 14:06:45 2024
    The Iceberg <[email protected]> Wrote in message:r
    Shot clock thing sounds a bit dumb, but are they also going to ban them from sitting down and make it only 30seconds to run to the other end after the end of the point?! that would be entertaining when they have cramp and stuff but they should admit it
    only cos of the TV which is why we get those 4am night matches "And the long, drawn-out ties are negatively impacting broadcasters".https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/tennis/tennis-players-to-be-banned-from-sitting-down-as-radical-new-rules-set-for-trial/ar-
    BB1kVvu7Tennis players 'to be banned from sitting down' as radical new rules set for trialTennis chiefs are set to wheel out a number of new rules at the Madrid Masters later this month with the objective of speeding up matches. Part of the reported
    trial will ban doubles players from having their 90-second sit-down break every two games in the first set.The new rules are set to be presented at the ATP Council later this week for approval ahead of the Madrid Masters, which starts on April 22. If
    they are passed through, men's doubles will be used as a 'guinea pig' in Spain, with other categories adhering to familiar regulations.According to The i, tennis chiefs are hoping to scrap the sit-down break in the first set. Players would usually be
    given 90 seconds to rest and recover every two games, but under the new rules they would have a limited amount of time to change ends.Competitors would then be given an extended break at the end of the set to compensate. Changes to the shot clock are
    also expected to be proposed.If approved by the ATP Council, men's doubles players in Madrid will operate with a 15-second shot clock, so long as the previous rally lasted three shots or fewer. Longer rallies will trigger a 25-second shot clock, which is
    customary under current rules.The sport's bosses are hoping to speed things up after a marked increase in the length of matches. Men's singles contests are more than 25 per cent longer now than they were 20 years ago.And the long, drawn-out ties are
    negatively impacting broadcasters. A shorter shot clock was experimented with at the ATP Next Gen Finals last year in Saudi Arabia.Part of the rules revamp will also look to address the problem of singles players entering the doubles draw before
    withdrawing without playing a match. A proposed new entry system, which could be tried out in Madrid, would reserve 13 places in the doubles draw for teams involving singles players, who would have a later entry deadline than their specialist doubles
    counterparts.The Madrid Masters doubles draw is set to start on the second Tuesday of the event in an attempt to resolve scheduling issues after ESPN reportedly wrote to the ATP explaining why they don't show doubles matches.



    Why not simply increase prize money for quicker matches?

    Under such rules beating someone 60 60 would not necessarily mean it was a "quick" match, instead it would be about measuring time between the pts.

    Some would average 19 seconds some 29 and those who average 19 would get more money?

    So you could play 5 set 5 hour match, but be classified as "quicker" than someone winning 64 63.


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  • From stephenj@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 18 22:19:15 2024
    The longer matches is because they slowed down the courts and everyone
    plays the same baseline game. I used to criticize the Sampras - Goran
    serving fests of the 1990s, and they were boring, but at least they
    ended quickly. Now we get two metronomes going on for four hours, like
    Andrea Jaeger vs Tracy Austin circa 1982.

    As for doubles, IMO they should just stick a fork in it. The best
    players don't play anymore, just jettison it.










    On 4/3/2024 2:37 AM, The Iceberg wrote:
    Shot clock thing sounds a bit dumb, but are they also going to ban them
    from sitting down and make it only 30seconds to run to the other end
    after the end of the point?! that would be entertaining when they have
    cramp and stuff but they should admit it only cos of the TV which is why
    we get those 4am night matches "And the long, drawn-out ties are
    negatively impacting broadcasters".

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/tennis/tennis-players-to-be-banned-from-sitting-down-as-radical-new-rules-set-for-trial/ar-BB1kVvu7

    Tennis players 'to be banned from sitting down' as radical new rules set
    for trial

    Tennis chiefs are set to wheel out a number of new rules at the Madrid Masters later this month with the objective of speeding up matches. Part
    of the reported trial will ban doubles players from having their
    90-second sit-down break every two games in the first set.

    The new rules are set to be presented at the ATP Council later this week
    for approval ahead of the Madrid Masters, which starts on April 22. If
    they are passed through, men's doubles will be used as a 'guinea pig' in Spain, with other categories adhering to familiar regulations.

    According to The i, tennis chiefs are hoping to scrap the sit-down break
    in the first set. Players would usually be given 90 seconds to rest and recover every two games, but under the new rules they would have a
    limited amount of time to change ends.
    Competitors would then be given an extended break at the end of the set
    to compensate. Changes to the shot clock are also expected to be proposed.

    If approved by the ATP Council, men's doubles players in Madrid will
    operate with a 15-second shot clock, so long as the previous rally
    lasted three shots or fewer. Longer rallies will trigger a 25-second
    shot clock, which is customary under current rules.

    The sport's bosses are hoping to speed things up after a marked increase
    in the length of matches. Men's singles contests are more than 25 per
    cent longer now than they were 20 years ago.

    And the long, drawn-out ties are negatively impacting broadcasters. A
    shorter shot clock was experimented with at the ATP Next Gen Finals last
    year in Saudi Arabia.

    Part of the rules revamp will also look to address the problem of
    singles players entering the doubles draw before withdrawing without
    playing a match. A proposed new entry system, which could be tried out
    in Madrid, would reserve 13 places in the doubles draw for teams
    involving singles players, who would have a later entry deadline than
    their specialist doubles counterparts.

    The Madrid Masters doubles draw is set to start on the second Tuesday of
    the event in an attempt to resolve scheduling issues after ESPN
    reportedly wrote to the ATP explaining why they don't show doubles matches.

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