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  • What I do not and cannot understand about J6...

    From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 10 19:53:42 2022
    You had to realize marching on Washington to reverse the election was going to require gunfire, violence, and bloodshed.

    And, under 2A, as a MILITARY/MILITIA exercise -- not in the purview of the civilian courts.

    So why the cowardice? Anyone with an intelligence quotient of a garden kumquat would realize that the "Fathers Intended" Constitutional (and Declaration of Independence "Course of Human Events") had been successfully met!

    Especially given that it was a large-scale at least incursion, why the fuck didn't you shoot, especially when it was clear you had help, you had top-level backing, and you had breached the Capitol for the first time since the War of 1812!!!

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 13 08:56:09 2022
    I notice none of the Republicans have responded to this.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Mon Jun 13 12:01:50 2022
    On 6/13/2022 11:56 AM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    I notice none of the Republicans have responded to this.

    Mike

    I haven't watched it.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Mon Jun 13 11:09:27 2022
    On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 10:48:27 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:

    I generally don't believe in coups. We have a functional government.
    After the fall elections the people will have had their own coup.

    I disagree wholeheartedly, for a number of reasons.

    1) I don't believe we have a functional government in any stripe of what the Republicans would want. I don't think I have to talk about all the inflation, the disorder, and all that stuff -- much less the allowance of various "others" we are starting to
    see open killing sprees at least started against -- that group in Idaho being the latest!

    2) The concept that the election was stolen and that America needed to be saved. This raises any number of questions in response:

    a) How can anyone count on the fact that they will get that November result you speak of (the "people's coup") if they are that certain the 2020 election was that stolen? How can you even hold an election in November if you think this one was so corrupt?

    b) Presume you can. Short of my proposal of revoking Electoral College consent and throwing the Presidency to the Supreme Court (or assassination), Biden or Harris is going to be President for the next two years - a situation I'm not sure you could
    either tolerate or think America survives!

    c) How do you then reverse the two years of Biden without a mass bloodletting of the Left even if you can surmount the first two? The fact that you believe the "excess money" thrown at "us" is a good part of the reason for the inflation (and then the
    fraudulent nature, many believe, of COVID) would imply that many of us need to die anyway.

    So I disagree with your pretense horribly. Sorry.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Mon Jun 13 10:29:10 2022
    On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 9:01:56 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 6/13/2022 11:56 AM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    I notice none of the Republicans have responded to this.

    I haven't watched it.

    For the record, I'm not talking about the hearings.

    I'm talking about that it's clear the J6 demonstrators had help within the Congress and the backing of then-President Trump.

    And, as my therapist said to me at the end of my first session: "Until lions learn to write, stories of hunting will always glorify the hunter."

    So why didn't they shoot, consummate the coup, set off the nationwide bloodletting they've wanted for 30 years, and truly (in their minds) Make America Great Again?

    Especially given what we are finding out, over the course of time, the cowardice of the White Right and the J6 people is just beyond any sense of intelligent comprehension!

    If you'd opened fire and basically shot the Congress, you probably win!!!

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Mon Jun 13 13:48:23 2022
    On 6/13/2022 1:29 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 9:01:56 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 6/13/2022 11:56 AM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    I notice none of the Republicans have responded to this.

    I haven't watched it.

    For the record, I'm not talking about the hearings.

    I'm talking about that it's clear the J6 demonstrators had help within the Congress and the backing of then-President Trump.

    And, as my therapist said to me at the end of my first session: "Until lions learn to write, stories of hunting will always glorify the hunter."

    So why didn't they shoot, consummate the coup, set off the nationwide bloodletting they've wanted for 30 years, and truly (in their minds) Make America Great Again?

    Especially given what we are finding out, over the course of time, the cowardice of the White Right and the J6 people is just beyond any sense of intelligent comprehension!

    If you'd opened fire and basically shot the Congress, you probably win!!!

    Mike

    I generally don't believe in coups. We have a functional government.
    After the fall elections the people will have had their own coup.

    --
    ÄLSKAR - Fänga Dagen

    Слава Україні та НАТО

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  • From Emperor Wonko the Sane@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Mon Jun 13 13:17:45 2022
    On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
    I notice none of the Republicans have responded to this.


    Because you're either flinging bait by dumping the whole chum bucket overboard or unable to posit an argument that has any basis in reality. Either way, responding is an exercise in futility.

    Doug

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Emperor Wonko the Sane on Mon Jun 13 13:18:49 2022
    On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 1:17:47 PM UTC-7, Emperor Wonko the Sane wrote:
    On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
    I notice none of the Republicans have responded to this.

    Because you're either flinging bait by dumping the whole chum bucket overboard or unable to posit an argument that has any basis in reality. Either way, responding is an exercise in futility.

    No, I'm sorry. When I'm dealing with a political party who believes everybody but them is a fucking groomer, a fucking useless eater, or worse, I'm sorry.

    Shoot us or shut the fuck up.

    Mike

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