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  • Magazine Predictions - Big XII

    From JGibson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 07:32:00 2023
    Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's go right to the conferences.

    (from football.stassen.com)

    1. Texas
    2. Oklahoma
    3. Kansas State
    4. TCU
    5. Texas Tech
    6. Kansas
    7. Baylor
    8. UCF
    9. Oklahoma State
    10. Iowa State
    11. BYU
    12. West Virginia
    13. Houston
    14. Cincinnati

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  • From RSFC Moderator@21:1/5 to JGibson on Thu Aug 17 18:11:41 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:04 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's go right to the conferences.

    (from football.stassen.com)

    2. Oklahoma

    Not sold me on this. Oklahoma had a losing record last year. Make a bowl? Probably. Contend for the conference? Doubtful.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to RSFC Moderator on Fri Aug 18 06:57:19 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:11:44 PM UTC-4, RSFC Moderator wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:04 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's go right to the conferences.

    (from football.stassen.com)
    2. Oklahoma

    Not sold me on this. Oklahoma had a losing record last year. Make a bowl? Probably. Contend for the conference? Doubtful.

    Lindy apparently agrees with you, ranking them #4 (behind not only Texas but also K-State and TCU), but the other ones in the Stassen consensus - Athlon, Phil Steele, McIllece Sports, and CFB Model Dunham - are all going with second.

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  • From RSFC Moderator@21:1/5 to JGibson on Sat Aug 26 09:27:36 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:04 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    (from football.stassen.com)
    12. West Virginia

    Some other preseason picks had them 14th/14 in the Big12. Last year they finished in a disappointing tie at 7-9/10. Coach Brown is on thin ice.

    Last year, the pass-d was truly awful--- the only ready-to-play CB who didn't portal out was injured in the first game. Also, the hotshot QB was just ok.

    This year, the word out of camp is that the returning players are playing much better. The game has slowed down for the QBs. The new guys are impressively fast and strong and have surprisingly good football sense. Also, the team is gelling better
    than anyone has ever seen in the history of space time. So, pretty much like every preseason camp everywhere.

    Dunno. It's August and hopium is in the air. When it doesn't make me sneeze, it make me think 14/14 is more than a trifle pessimistic.

    The o-line is good. The running back room is deep and good. QB, Green, throws as well as last year's guy and is a runner, too.

    So, O should be better. D should be less bad. Overall, team should be better,

    Schedule is hard: 11 power 5 games, 6 of them on the road. Pencil in loss at Oklahoma. Ink in loss at Penn St and win vs I-AA. Every other game could reasonably go either way--- so could finish 2-10 or 9-3. I'm gonna say 6-6.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to JGibson on Tue Aug 29 06:07:59 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:32:04 AM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
    Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's go right to the conferences.

    (from football.stassen.com)

    1. Texas
    2. Oklahoma
    3. Kansas State
    4. TCU
    5. Texas Tech
    6. Kansas
    7. Baylor
    8. UCF
    9. Oklahoma State
    10. Iowa State
    11. BYU
    12. West Virginia
    13. Houston
    14. Cincinnati

    Update now that there are 15 pre-season projections rather than 5:

    1. Texas
    2t Kansas State
    2t Oklahoma
    4. TCU
    5. Texas Tech
    6. Baylor
    7. Oklahoma State
    8. UCF
    9. Kansas
    10. BYU
    11. Iowa State
    12. Cincinnati
    13. Houston
    14. West Virginia

    McIllece Sports had West Virginia 7th, which helped bring them up to 12th with only 5 magazines, but the other magazines have them between tied for 10th and 14th.

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