• Re: Copa America after 2 rounds

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 29 15:39:08 2024
    In article <v5o0ge$3ol0p$[email protected]>, Lléo <[email protected]> wrote: >Group A

    June 29th

    Argentina - Peru
    Canada - Chile

    1 Argentina 6 (GD +3, 3-0)
    2 Canada 3 (GD -1, 1-2)
    3 Chile 1 (GD -1, 0-1)
    Peru 1 (GD -1, 0-1)

    Argentina is through and may rest Messi for the last matchday (he
    complained about a thigh strain and a fever). But even without him
    they're quite above this very poor Peruvian team, who has to win to
    avoid a first round exit. Canada vs Chile could be an interesting
    showdown. Canada so far has been the better side between the two, and
    only needs a draw, while Chile must win. Should be a close one.


    Predicting

    Canada 2 -0 Arg 1- 0

    Group B

    June 30th

    Jamaica - Venezuela
    Mexico - Ecuador

    1 Venezuela 6 (GD +2, 3-1)
    2 Ecuador 3 (GD +1, 4-3)
    3 Mexico 3 (GD 0, 1-1)
    4 Jamaica 0 (GD -3, 1-4)

    Jamaica is out of contention, while Venezuela needs at least a draw to >guarantee 1st place in the group, something that should be enough for
    them to avoid Argentina in the QF. Ecuador vs Mexico duel for the other
    QF spot. Ecuador seems to be better than this very underwhelming Mexican
    team and a draw is enough for them.


    Venezuela and Ecuador to win.

    Group C

    July 1st

    Bolivia - Panama
    United States - Uruguay

    1 Uruguay 6 (GD +7, 8-1)
    2 United States 3 (GD +1, 2-1)
    3 Panama 3 (GD -1, 3-4)
    4 Bolivia 0 (GD -7, 0-7)

    Uruguay is through for all intents and purposes, it would take a
    disaster to knock off their comfortable GD cushion. The United States
    and Panama battle for the second spot. The US has the tiebreaker edge. I >thought Panama was quite mediocre, but they probably are good enough to
    beat Bolivia, who seems to be the weakest team of the tournament. The
    US, then, better play for a win against Uruguay.


    Urugauy and Panama

    Group D

    July 2nd

    Brasil - Colombia
    Costa Rica - Paraguay

    1 Colombia 6 (GD +4, 5-1)
    2 Brasil 4 (GD +3, 4-1)
    3 Costa Rica 1 (GD -3, 0-3)
    4 Paraguay 0 (GD -4, 2-6)

    Colombia and Brasil will play for 1st place in the group, with Colombia >playing for a draw. Costa Rica has to beat Paraguay, hope for Colombia
    to beat Brasil, and that combined results cover the big GD difference
    between them and Brasil. Though they haven't shown much so far, I think
    they will beat a Paraguayan team which has been one of the poorest of
    the Cup thus far. But we'll probably see Colombia and Brasil through.

    We are projecting an Argentina vs Uruguay final. I think they've been
    the best teams thus far (early days, though). Argentina seems to have
    the easier path, probably getting Ecuador or Mexico in the QF and >Canada/Chile/Venezuela in the semis. Uruguay, meanwhile, will expect to
    get one of Colombia or Brasil already in the quarters and the other in
    the semis (or, who knows, Panama/United States, though that doesn't seem >likely). And beyond the Rioplatense duo, I see Colombia and Brasil with
    the main outside shot at the Cup.

    Brasil and Paraguay.



    Best regards,

    Lléo


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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 29 18:36:29 2024
    Lléo wrote:


    Group C

    July 1st

    Bolivia - Panama
    United States - Uruguay

    1 Uruguay 6 (GD +7, 8-1)
    2 United States 3 (GD +1, 2-1)
    3 Panama 3 (GD -1, 3-4)
    4 Bolivia 0 (GD -7, 0-7)

    Uruguay is through for all intents and purposes, it would take a
    disaster to knock off their comfortable GD cushion. The United States
    and Panama battle for the second spot. The US has the tiebreaker edge.


    Fortunately, Conmebol/CONCACAF use overall GD as the first tie-breaker, otherwise we would be in for a nice USA-Uruguay biscotto.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sat Jun 29 20:10:24 2024
    On 2024-06-29 12:36, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Lléo wrote:


    Group C

    July 1st

    Bolivia - Panama
    United States - Uruguay

    1 Uruguay 6 (GD +7, 8-1)
    2 United States 3 (GD +1, 2-1)
    3 Panama 3 (GD -1, 3-4)
    4 Bolivia 0 (GD -7, 0-7)

    Uruguay is through for all intents and purposes, it would take a
    disaster to knock off their comfortable GD cushion. The United States
    and Panama battle for the second spot. The US has the tiebreaker edge.


    Fortunately, Conmebol/CONCACAF use overall GD as the first tie-breaker, otherwise we would be in for a nice USA-Uruguay biscotto.

    Would that not be pretty risky for the the US, since Panama must have a
    decent chance of beating Bolivia ?

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 12:19:35 2024
    MH wrote:


    Fortunately, Conmebol/CONCACAF use overall GD as the first tie-breaker,
    otherwise we would be in for a nice USA-Uruguay biscotto.

    Would that not be pretty risky for the the US, since Panama must have a decent chance of beating Bolivia ?

    You are not versed well enough in biscottology. Under HTH, a 1-0 USA win
    would have sent both teams to the next round, regardless of what
    happened in the other match.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sun Jun 30 10:06:14 2024
    On 2024-06-30 06:19, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    MH wrote:


    Fortunately, Conmebol/CONCACAF use overall GD as the first tie-breaker,
    otherwise we would be in for a nice USA-Uruguay biscotto.

    Would that not be pretty risky for the the US, since Panama must have a
    decent chance of beating Bolivia ?

    You are not versed well enough in biscottology. Under HTH, a 1-0 USA win would have sent both teams to the next round, regardless of what
    happened in the other match.
    I see, I am clearly not devious enough. Anyway, fortunately the
    criterion is GD, and anyway, I can't see the USA winning vs. Uruguay
    without a huge dollop of luck.

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