• Copa 24

    From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 13 07:55:38 2024
    Ok since the EUro has been decided we can now focus on the COPA America,
    which is being hosted in America, I mean USA america.

    Argentina is favourite to win it all, the rankings for betting goes,

    1Argentina
    2Brazil
    3Uruguay
    4Colombia
    5USA
    6Mexico

    Most teams with the exception of Kanada have played friendlies vs South
    or North American teams or at least CONCACAF, Canada has played European
    teams in Europe, I dont know if that Is a Jesse Marsch thing? Is the
    Canadian NT still in Europe?

    AS I in a previous thread, Canada needs to play for 0-0 draws in order
    to advance and they did just that vs France, so if you can draw vs the
    2nd rated team in the world, you have to be favourites.

    WE like Colombia as a dark horse (though I guess they are not really a
    dark horse if the are 4th favourites), but at the moment we are
    projecting Brasil to win it all, even though friendlies have not been
    that good for them, they just drew with puny little USA and have
    recently lost to teams like Colombia and Uruguay.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Thu Jun 13 13:57:11 2024
    On 2024-06-13 05:55, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok since the EUro has been decided we can now focus on the COPA America, which is being hosted in America, I mean USA america.

    Argentina is favourite to win it all, the rankings for betting goes,

    1Argentina
    2Brazil
    3Uruguay
    4Colombia
    5USA
    6Mexico

    Most teams with the exception of Kanada have played friendlies vs South
    or North American teams or at least CONCACAF, Canada has played European teams in Europe, I dont know if that Is a Jesse Marsch thing? Is the
    Canadian NT still in Europe?

    AS I in a previous thread, Canada needs to play for 0-0 draws in order
    to advance and they did just that vs France, so if you can draw vs the
    2nd rated team in the world, you have to be favourites.

    Playing to 0-0 draws is not really Canada's strength. We have more good attacking players than defenders.
    Seems Marsch wants to use Davies as a LB and to play a 4-4-2. Argentina
    should beat us easily, and I don't fancy our chances against either
    Chile or Peru. However a faint ray of hope is that Chile and Peru might
    be past their best given that they are both in the bottom three so far
    in Conmebol qualifying for the next WC. That's right, at least 4 points
    behind Venezuela. Chile's only win was home to Peru. Peru has not won
    at all. Admittedly the schedule has not been great for either with away
    games in places like Ecuador and Bolivia with altitude advantages.


    WE like Colombia as a dark horse (though I guess they are not really a
    dark horse if the are 4th favourites), but at the moment we are
    projecting Brasil to win it all, even though friendlies have not been
    that good for them, they just drew with puny little USA and have
    recently lost to teams like Colombia and Uruguay.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Fri Jun 14 12:36:53 2024
    Binder Dundat wrote:

    Ok since the EUro has been decided we can now focus on the COPA
    America, which is being hosted in America, I mean USA america.

    Yeah why are there 2 continents and 1 country called America?

    Argentina is favourite to win it all, the rankings for betting goes,

    1Argentina
    2Brazil
    3Uruguay
    4Colombia
    5USA
    6Mexico

    Most teams with the exception of Kanada have played friendlies vs
    South or North American teams or at least CONCACAF, Canada has played European teams in Europe, I dont know if that Is a Jesse Marsch
    thing? Is the Canadian NT still in Europe?

    AS I in a previous thread, Canada needs to play for 0-0 draws in
    order to advance and they did just that vs France, so if you can draw
    vs the 2nd rated team in the world, you have to be favourites.

    WE like Colombia as a dark horse (though I guess they are not really
    a dark horse if the are 4th favourites), but at the moment we are
    projecting Brasil to win it all, even though friendlies have not been
    that good for them, they just drew with puny little USA and have
    recently lost to teams like Colombia and Uruguay.

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Jun 14 06:39:10 2024
    "Mark" <[email protected]> writes:

    Yeah why are there 2 continents and 1 country called America?

    Because people like to abbreviate things:
    North America -> America
    South America -> America
    United States of America -> America
    America Ferrera -> Betty

    When I grew up I was taught there were 5 continents, reflected on the
    Olympic flag having 5 rings, by combining North and South America and
    excluding uninhabited Antarctica.

    -- HASM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to HASM on Fri Jun 14 15:21:48 2024
    On 2024-06-14 07:39, HASM wrote:
    "Mark" <[email protected]> writes:

    Yeah why are there 2 continents and 1 country called America?

    Because people like to abbreviate things:
    North America -> America
    South America -> America
    United States of America -> America
    America Ferrera -> Betty

    When I grew up I was taught there were 5 continents, reflected on the
    Olympic flag having 5 rings, by combining North and South America and excluding uninhabited Antarctica.

    Which is a pretty Eurocentric way of seeing things, given geology,
    tectonics, and so on. Defining Europe as a continent is pretty hard to support. There is not even universal agreement as to exactly where the
    border is in the South east, and the Urals don't make that convincing a
    barrier to build a border on.

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 15 06:32:32 2024
    MH <[email protected]> writes:

    When I grew up I was taught there were 5 continents,

    Which is a pretty Eurocentric way of seeing things, given geology,

    I did grow up in Europe :-)

    Wikipedia's article on continents shows lists with four through seven continents, depending on how one wants to count. If one thinks of
    continents as very large islands there are indeed 4.

    I just had to look where (in "Central" America) is the dividing line
    between North and South America. Somewhere between Panama and Colombia

    -- HASM

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 20 19:56:54 2024
    I did not see the opening Ceremony for the Euro, i assume there was one,
    maybe with Scorpions Nena? The Copa though had the Colombian guy and an American kinda opening ceremony, maybe it was Costa Rican, but it seemed
    very red white and blue.

    Argies already doing the gamesmanship thing, making the Kanadians wait
    in the tunnel. It would be the biggest upset in the history of football
    if Kanada wins.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Jun 22 11:24:14 2024
    The Chile v Peru match was a foul ridden 0-0 draw, I thought Chile
    looked the better team, but we are NOT projecting them to win the cup.
    in fact, we are now projecting Kanada to make it out of the group phase.



    On 2024-06-20 7:56 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    I did not see the opening Ceremony for the Euro, i assume there was one, maybe with Scorpions Nena?  The Copa though had the Colombian guy and an American kinda opening ceremony, maybe it was Costa Rican, but it seemed
    very red white and blue.

    Argies already doing the gamesmanship thing, making the Kanadians wait
    in the tunnel.  It would be the biggest upset in the history of football
    if Kanada wins.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sun Jun 23 09:48:11 2024
    Ever since CONCACAF teams have joined the COPA America it has become a
    very passionate affair, probably because South Americans were always
    thinking that there is a part of America missing from the COPA America,
    or maybe just cus CONCACAF is the Rockingest confederation.

    Ecuador vs Venezuela sort of started with the ill tempered-ness of the
    previous match. Now I dont know why,is it politics? Venezuela used to
    be a rich country, but not really anymore, so it cant be that. I can
    see Peru v Chile being more like a Derby and I can see the passion, but
    no one should dislike the vino tinto ( that were actually wearing their
    vino blanco shirts). Ok Venezuela has oil , but the country is in poor
    shape compared to when I was there. Back then everyone had big bots and
    cars and money, now everyone is leaving. I seem to recall something to
    the effect that Venezuela has more Oil than anyone else or some such thing?

    Anyhow as for the match Ecuador red carded within the first 15 minutes
    for a nasty high boot, which really looked bad in my opinion, just cus
    it seemed he tried to follow through. VARobots actually had to give the
    red after the ref only gave yellow. So 10 men Ecuador scored first but
    long story short a chippy match ended 2-1 though it seemed less chippy
    as the match progressed.

    A pure CONCACAF match was the second of the day between Mexico and
    Jamaica. Mexico seems to be fielding more of an experimental side, I don
    know if they have a team playing in the Olympics maybe?

    Anyhow the Mexi fans seemed down on the team and it was only going to
    get worse when Jamaica scored first, but it was called back for offside,
    which is too bad, it was a perfectly good goal aside from a slight
    offside, but the guy was trying to come back onside and without VAR, I
    think a linesman would not have called it?

    That dis allowed goal seemed to wake up the players and even the fans
    sort of got behind the Mexis and they soon scored their own goal to win
    it 1-0.

    I dont understand USA stadiums. I understand that they are all fake
    grass, but have real grass poured on top of the fake grass, but what i
    dont understand is why they all have roofs in places which I assume are steaming hot? I get Green Bay having a roof or even Seattle, but in Texas?

    If you are to compare the EURO vs the COPA, so far I would say there is
    more "passion" in the COPA and by "passion" I mean fouling. USA play
    probably the weakest S American team Bolivia and Uruguay play possibly
    the weakest CONCACAF team panama today


    On 2024-06-22 11:24 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    The Chile v Peru match was a foul ridden 0-0 draw, I thought Chile
    looked the better team, but we are NOT projecting them to win the cup.
    in fact, we are now projecting Kanada to make it out of the group phase.



    On 2024-06-20 7:56 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    I did not see the opening Ceremony for the Euro, i assume there was
    one, maybe with Scorpions Nena?  The Copa though had the Colombian guy
    and an American kinda opening ceremony, maybe it was Costa Rican, but
    it seemed very red white and blue.

    Argies already doing the gamesmanship thing, making the Kanadians wait
    in the tunnel.  It would be the biggest upset in the history of
    football if Kanada wins.


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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Mon Jun 24 20:56:16 2024
    The most important thing to see as a Copa fan is how Brazil is doing.
    The second is how the Oilerd are doing and it is 1-1.


    On 2024-06-23 9:48 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ever since CONCACAF teams have joined the COPA America it has become a
    very passionate affair, probably because South Americans were always
    thinking that there is a part of America missing from the COPA America,
    or maybe just cus CONCACAF is the Rockingest confederation.

    Ecuador vs Venezuela sort of started with the ill tempered-ness of the previous match.  Now I dont know why,is it politics?  Venezuela used to
    be a rich country, but not really anymore, so it cant be that.  I can
    see Peru v Chile being more like a Derby and I can see the passion, but
    no one should dislike the vino tinto ( that were actually wearing their
    vino blanco shirts).  Ok Venezuela has oil , but the country is in poor shape compared to when I was there.  Back then everyone had big bots and cars and money, now everyone is leaving.  I seem to recall something to
    the effect that Venezuela has more Oil than anyone else or some such thing?

    Anyhow as for the match Ecuador red carded within the first 15 minutes
    for a nasty high boot, which really looked bad in my opinion, just cus
    it seemed he tried to follow through.  VARobots actually had to give the
    red after the ref only gave yellow. So 10 men Ecuador scored first but
    long story short a chippy match ended 2-1 though it seemed less chippy
    as the match progressed.

    A pure CONCACAF match was the second of the day between Mexico and
    Jamaica. Mexico seems to be fielding more of an experimental side, I don
    know if they have a team playing in the Olympics maybe?

    Anyhow the Mexi fans seemed down on the team and it was only going to
    get worse when Jamaica scored first, but it was called back for offside, which is too bad, it was a perfectly good goal aside from a slight
    offside, but the guy was trying to come back onside and without VAR, I
    think a linesman would not have called it?

    That dis allowed goal seemed to wake up the players and even the fans
    sort of got behind the Mexis and they soon scored their own goal to win
    it 1-0.

    I dont understand USA stadiums.  I understand that they are all fake
    grass, but have real grass poured on top of the fake grass, but what i
    dont understand is why they all have roofs in places which I assume are steaming hot?  I get Green Bay having a roof or even Seattle, but in Texas?

    If you are to compare the EURO vs the COPA, so far I would say there is
    more "passion" in the COPA and by "passion" I mean fouling. USA play
    probably the weakest S American team Bolivia and Uruguay play possibly
    the weakest CONCACAF team panama today


    On 2024-06-22 11:24 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    The Chile v Peru match was a foul ridden 0-0 draw, I thought Chile
    looked the better team, but we are NOT projecting them to win the cup.
    in fact, we are now projecting Kanada to make it out of the group phase.



    On 2024-06-20 7:56 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    I did not see the opening Ceremony for the Euro, i assume there was
    one, maybe with Scorpions Nena?  The Copa though had the Colombian
    guy and an American kinda opening ceremony, maybe it was Costa Rican,
    but it seemed very red white and blue.

    Argies already doing the gamesmanship thing, making the Kanadians
    wait in the tunnel.  It would be the biggest upset in the history of
    football if Kanada wins.



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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Mon Jun 24 22:04:43 2024
    No way, I gotta smoke a joint or do sumtin. Florida beating a team from kanafda!

    Oh yeah Costa Rica is doing just fine vs Brasil


    On 2024-06-24 8:56 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    The most important thing to see as a Copa fan is how Brazil is doing.
    The second is how the Oilerd are doing and it is 1-1.


    On 2024-06-23 9:48 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ever since CONCACAF teams have joined the COPA America it has become a
    very passionate affair, probably because South Americans were always
    thinking that there is a part of America missing from the COPA
    America, or maybe just cus CONCACAF is the Rockingest confederation.

    Ecuador vs Venezuela sort of started with the ill tempered-ness of the
    previous match.  Now I dont know why,is it politics?  Venezuela used
    to be a rich country, but not really anymore, so it cant be that.  I
    can see Peru v Chile being more like a Derby and I can see the
    passion, but no one should dislike the vino tinto ( that were actually
    wearing their vino blanco shirts).  Ok Venezuela has oil , but the
    country is in poor shape compared to when I was there.  Back then
    everyone had big bots and cars and money, now everyone is leaving.  I
    seem to recall something to the effect that Venezuela has more Oil
    than anyone else or some such thing?

    Anyhow as for the match Ecuador red carded within the first 15 minutes
    for a nasty high boot, which really looked bad in my opinion, just cus
    it seemed he tried to follow through.  VARobots actually had to give
    the red after the ref only gave yellow. So 10 men Ecuador scored first
    but long story short a chippy match ended 2-1 though it seemed less
    chippy as the match progressed.

    A pure CONCACAF match was the second of the day between Mexico and
    Jamaica. Mexico seems to be fielding more of an experimental side, I
    don know if they have a team playing in the Olympics maybe?

    Anyhow the Mexi fans seemed down on the team and it was only going to
    get worse when Jamaica scored first, but it was called back for
    offside, which is too bad, it was a perfectly good goal aside from a
    slight offside, but the guy was trying to come back onside and without
    VAR, I think a linesman would not have called it?

    That dis allowed goal seemed to wake up the players and even the fans
    sort of got behind the Mexis and they soon scored their own goal to
    win it 1-0.

    I dont understand USA stadiums.  I understand that they are all fake
    grass, but have real grass poured on top of the fake grass, but what i
    dont understand is why they all have roofs in places which I assume
    are steaming hot?  I get Green Bay having a roof or even Seattle, but
    in Texas?

    If you are to compare the EURO vs the COPA, so far I would say there
    is more "passion" in the COPA and by "passion" I mean fouling. USA
    play probably the weakest S American team Bolivia and Uruguay play
    possibly the weakest CONCACAF team panama today


    On 2024-06-22 11:24 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    The Chile v Peru match was a foul ridden 0-0 draw, I thought Chile
    looked the better team, but we are NOT projecting them to win the
    cup. in fact, we are now projecting Kanada to make it out of the
    group phase.



    On 2024-06-20 7:56 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    I did not see the opening Ceremony for the Euro, i assume there was
    one, maybe with Scorpions Nena?  The Copa though had the Colombian
    guy and an American kinda opening ceremony, maybe it was Costa
    Rican, but it seemed very red white and blue.

    Argies already doing the gamesmanship thing, making the Kanadians
    wait in the tunnel.  It would be the biggest upset in the history of
    football if Kanada wins.




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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Mon Jun 24 22:16:09 2024
    On 2024-06-24 10:04 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    No way, I gotta smoke a joint or do sumtin.  Florida beating a team from kanafda!

    Oh yeah Costa Rica is doing just fine vs Brasil


    On 2024-06-24 8:56 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    The most important thing to see as a Copa fan is how Brazil is doing.
    The second is how the Oilerd are doing and it is 1-1.


    On 2024-06-23 9:48 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ever since CONCACAF teams have joined the COPA America it has become
    a very passionate affair, probably because South Americans were
    always thinking that there is a part of America missing from the COPA
    America, or maybe just cus CONCACAF is the Rockingest confederation.

    Ecuador vs Venezuela sort of started with the ill tempered-ness of
    the previous match.  Now I dont know why,is it politics?  Venezuela
    used to be a rich country, but not really anymore, so it cant be
    that.  I can see Peru v Chile being more like a Derby and I can see
    the passion, but no one should dislike the vino tinto ( that were
    actually wearing their vino blanco shirts).  Ok Venezuela has oil ,
    but the country is in poor shape compared to when I was there.  Back
    then everyone had big bots and cars and money, now everyone is
    leaving.  I seem to recall something to the effect that Venezuela has
    more Oil than anyone else or some such thing?

    Anyhow as for the match Ecuador red carded within the first 15
    minutes for a nasty high boot, which really looked bad in my opinion,
    just cus it seemed he tried to follow through.  VARobots actually had
    to give the red after the ref only gave yellow. So 10 men Ecuador
    scored first but long story short a chippy match ended 2-1 though it
    seemed less chippy as the match progressed.

    A pure CONCACAF match was the second of the day between Mexico and
    Jamaica. Mexico seems to be fielding more of an experimental side, I
    don know if they have a team playing in the Olympics maybe?

    Anyhow the Mexi fans seemed down on the team and it was only going to
    get worse when Jamaica scored first, but it was called back for
    offside, which is too bad, it was a perfectly good goal aside from a
    slight offside, but the guy was trying to come back onside and
    without VAR, I think a linesman would not have called it?

    That dis allowed goal seemed to wake up the players and even the fans
    sort of got behind the Mexis and they soon scored their own goal to
    win it 1-0.

    I dont understand USA stadiums.  I understand that they are all fake
    grass, but have real grass poured on top of the fake grass, but what
    i dont understand is why they all have roofs in places which I assume
    are steaming hot?  I get Green Bay having a roof or even Seattle, but
    in Texas?

    If you are to compare the EURO vs the COPA, so far I would say there
    is more "passion" in the COPA and by "passion" I mean fouling. USA
    play probably the weakest S American team Bolivia and Uruguay play
    possibly the weakest CONCACAF team panama today


    On 2024-06-22 11:24 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    The Chile v Peru match was a foul ridden 0-0 draw, I thought Chile
    looked the better team, but we are NOT projecting them to win the
    cup. in fact, we are now projecting Kanada to make it out of the
    group phase.



    On 2024-06-20 7:56 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    I did not see the opening Ceremony for the Euro, i assume there was
    one, maybe with Scorpions Nena?  The Copa though had the Colombian
    guy and an American kinda opening ceremony, maybe it was Costa
    Rican, but it seemed very red white and blue.

    Argies already doing the gamesmanship thing, making the Kanadians
    wait in the tunnel.  It would be the biggest upset in the history
    of football if Kanada wins.






    I am trying to keep this on topic, but what is nor eof an upset,


    Costa Rica beating Brasil or Florida beating Edmonton?

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Mon Jun 24 23:09:00 2024
    Im just sayin CONCACAF does ice hockey better than soccer, or maybe they
    dont?

    Back in my day Cost Rica was the best team in CONCACAF.

    As far as the ice hockey goes, I am agan it, I dont like it, you cannit
    have teams from florida winning the ice hockey.


    On 2024-06-24 10:56 p.m., Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Futbolmetrix wrote:


    Edmonton and Brasil need a Zaccagni

    No Zaccagni for Edmonton. In the end, Warm Weather Theory prevails.

    One more minute for Zaccagninho to emerge

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Tue Jun 25 02:54:17 2024
    Binder Dundat wrote:


    I am trying to keep this on topic, but what is nor eof an upset,


    Costa Rica beating Brasil or Florida beating Edmonton?

    Edmonton and Brasil need a Zaccagni

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Jun 25 02:56:46 2024
    Futbolmetrix wrote:


    Edmonton and Brasil need a Zaccagni

    No Zaccagni for Edmonton. In the end, Warm Weather Theory prevails.

    One more minute for Zaccagninho to emerge

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 20:38:32 2024
    Canada beats a South American team for the first time in 24 years! Not
    the most resounding win, Peru down to 10 men for the final 30 minutes.

    It was very hot, so hot that a linesman passed out, apparently due to
    the heat, when I saw him down, I thought he had maybe been hit by
    something. A Peruvian player head butted a CDN player but the
    Guatemalan ref and the VARobots did nothing, not even a yellow?

    Certainly not the most convincing win, but it is a win, Dont know if I
    would pick them to beat CHile, but it is possible.

    local boy Jonathan David with a nice composed finish gave Kanada the 1-0
    and it should have been smooth sailing, but the CDN keeper still had to
    make a couple of good saves towards the end of the match to keep it 1-0.

    Anyhow CONCACAF teams doin alright so far.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Thu Jun 27 16:08:52 2024
    On 2024-06-25 8:38 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Canada beats a South American team for the first time in 24 years!  Not
    the most resounding win, Peru down to 10 men for the final 30 minutes.

    It was very hot, so hot that a linesman passed out, apparently due to
    the heat, when I saw him down, I thought he had maybe been hit by something.  A Peruvian player head butted a CDN player but the
    Guatemalan ref and the VARobots did nothing, not even a yellow?

    Certainly not the most convincing win, but it is a win, Dont know if I
    would pick them to beat CHile, but it is possible.

    local boy Jonathan David with a nice composed finish gave Kanada the 1-0
    and it should have been smooth sailing, but the CDN keeper still had to
    make a couple of good saves towards the end of the match to keep it 1-0.

    Anyhow CONCACAF teams doin alright so far.


    Maybe the quality of football can be debated, I dont think it is that
    different from the EURO, even if they are playing in the heat and
    humidity of North America. Keep in mind that even here on the Iceberg,
    we have really hot summers with high humidity, so you can just imagine
    what it is like in Orlando or Kansas or Vegas ( though Vegas should be
    dry), which has to have an affect on the players. In Germany it seems
    it only rains, though I dont recall when i was young that it was this
    rainy in the summer?

    Anyhow the point is that the COPA does the VAR better, they dont seem to
    give out Penals for every handball. Yesterday, or maybe it was the day
    before, you had the English commentators saying how once VAR and the ref
    looks at it it will be a handball call. Thankfully they were wrong and
    it was not, the ridiculousness of hand ball calls in Europa is going to
    see players purposely aiming the ball at the opponents arms just to get
    these cheap calls. It was already happening.

    SO with some results already in, we are projecting Argentina to win the
    COPA 24.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Tue Jul 2 18:30:53 2024
    SO Kanada had a big injury happen today in training, Inter milan star
    player Tajan Buchanan had a serious injury, possible broken leg
    suffered? It is a blow, but not that huge, when you consider he has not
    played all that much. I always liked him and I dont know why he wasnt starting?

    End of the group stage tonight. Essentially the game for first place in
    Grp D, though I suppose if Brazil lose and Cost Rica win and somehow
    make up the 6 goals, the Costa Ricans could snatch 2nd.

    Some might say that Colombia is the hottest team in football, not me
    though, I think it is Venezuela, but this is where we see if this Brasil
    team is as good as I thought they would be.They need a win to take first
    place and I expect that to happen. Also, first place matches you with
    Panama, while 2nd would match you with Uruguay, so plenty to play for
    for both teams.

    From a CONCACAF perspective, we can safely say Canada is the best team
    in CONCACAF. Can they beat the Vino Tinto? Sure, why not.


    On 2024-06-27 4:08 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-06-25 8:38 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Canada beats a South American team for the first time in 24 years!
    Not the most resounding win, Peru down to 10 men for the final 30
    minutes.

    It was very hot, so hot that a linesman passed out, apparently due to
    the heat, when I saw him down, I thought he had maybe been hit by
    something.  A Peruvian player head butted a CDN player but the
    Guatemalan ref and the VARobots did nothing, not even a yellow?

    Certainly not the most convincing win, but it is a win, Dont know if I
    would pick them to beat CHile, but it is possible.

    local boy Jonathan David with a nice composed finish gave Kanada the
    1-0 and it should have been smooth sailing, but the CDN keeper still
    had to make a couple of good saves towards the end of the match to
    keep it 1-0.

    Anyhow CONCACAF teams doin alright so far.


    Maybe the quality of football can be debated, I dont think it is that different from the EURO, even if they are playing in the heat and
    humidity of North America.  Keep in mind that even here on the Iceberg,
    we have really hot summers with high humidity, so you can just imagine
    what it is like in Orlando or Kansas or Vegas ( though Vegas should be
    dry), which has to have an affect on the players.  In Germany it seems
    it only rains, though I dont recall when i was young that it was this
    rainy in the summer?

    Anyhow the point is that the COPA does the VAR better, they dont seem to
    give out Penals for every handball.  Yesterday, or maybe it was the day before, you had the English commentators saying how once VAR and the ref looks at it it will be a handball call.  Thankfully they were wrong and
    it was not, the ridiculousness of hand ball calls in Europa is going to
    see players purposely aiming the ball at the opponents arms just to get
    these cheap calls.  It was already happening.

    SO with some results already in, we are projecting Argentina to win the
    COPA 24.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Tue Jul 2 22:04:29 2024
    Colombia 1 - 1 Brasil HT

    Costa Rica 2 - 0 Paraguay HT

    AS it stands Colombia top the group and Brasil 2nd.

    Colombia is playing really well, better than Brasil in my opinion, they
    pass better and quicker and have probably had more scoring chances,
    their goalie might be a weak spot though.

    I have to say Vini JR annoys me with his constant bickering to the ref
    and crying for cards to be shown. He already has a yellow card for a
    foul, but he should see another one if he carries on with the ref like
    that. Old man james Rodruiguez is playing well, kinda forgotten man
    since he moved back to S America. Costa Rica is keeping up their end of
    the bargain, a couple more goals for them and if Colombia win, maybe
    CONCACAG gets three teams in the QFs?

    On 2024-07-02 6:30 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    SO Kanada had a big injury happen today in training, Inter milan star
    player Tajan Buchanan had a serious injury, possible broken leg
    suffered?  It is a blow, but not that huge, when you consider he has not played all that much.  I always liked him and I dont know why he wasnt starting?

    End of the group stage tonight. Essentially the game for first place in
    Grp D, though I suppose if Brazil lose and Cost Rica win and somehow
    make up the 6 goals, the Costa Ricans could snatch 2nd.

    Some might say that Colombia is the hottest team in football, not me
    though, I think it is Venezuela, but this is where we see if this Brasil
    team is as good as I thought they would be.They need a win to take first place and I expect that to happen. Also, first place matches you with
    Panama, while 2nd would match you with Uruguay, so plenty to play for
    for both teams.

    From a CONCACAF perspective, we can safely say Canada is the best team
    in CONCACAF. Can they beat the Vino Tinto?  Sure, why not.


    On 2024-06-27 4:08 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-06-25 8:38 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Canada beats a South American team for the first time in 24 years!
    Not the most resounding win, Peru down to 10 men for the final 30
    minutes.

    It was very hot, so hot that a linesman passed out, apparently due to
    the heat, when I saw him down, I thought he had maybe been hit by
    something.  A Peruvian player head butted a CDN player but the
    Guatemalan ref and the VARobots did nothing, not even a yellow?

    Certainly not the most convincing win, but it is a win, Dont know if
    I would pick them to beat CHile, but it is possible.

    local boy Jonathan David with a nice composed finish gave Kanada the
    1-0 and it should have been smooth sailing, but the CDN keeper still
    had to make a couple of good saves towards the end of the match to
    keep it 1-0.

    Anyhow CONCACAF teams doin alright so far.


    Maybe the quality of football can be debated, I dont think it is that
    different from the EURO, even if they are playing in the heat and
    humidity of North America.  Keep in mind that even here on the
    Iceberg, we have really hot summers with high humidity, so you can
    just imagine what it is like in Orlando or Kansas or Vegas ( though
    Vegas should be dry), which has to have an affect on the players.  In
    Germany it seems it only rains, though I dont recall when i was young
    that it was this rainy in the summer?

    Anyhow the point is that the COPA does the VAR better, they dont seem
    to give out Penals for every handball.  Yesterday, or maybe it was the
    day before, you had the English commentators saying how once VAR and
    the ref looks at it it will be a handball call.  Thankfully they were
    wrong and it was not, the ridiculousness of hand ball calls in Europa
    is going to see players purposely aiming the ball at the opponents
    arms just to get these cheap calls.  It was already happening.

    SO with some results already in, we are projecting Argentina to win
    the COPA 24.


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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Wed Jul 3 13:13:20 2024
    On 2024-06-27 14:08, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-06-25 8:38 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Canada beats a South American team for the first time in 24 years!
    Not the most resounding win, Peru down to 10 men for the final 30
    minutes.

    It was very hot, so hot that a linesman passed out, apparently due to
    the heat, when I saw him down, I thought he had maybe been hit by
    something.  A Peruvian player head butted a CDN player but the
    Guatemalan ref and the VARobots did nothing, not even a yellow?

    Certainly not the most convincing win, but it is a win, Dont know if I
    would pick them to beat CHile, but it is possible.

    local boy Jonathan David with a nice composed finish gave Kanada the
    1-0 and it should have been smooth sailing, but the CDN keeper still
    had to make a couple of good saves towards the end of the match to
    keep it 1-0.

    Anyhow CONCACAF teams doin alright so far.


    Maybe the quality of football can be debated, I dont think it is that different from the EURO, even if they are playing in the heat and
    humidity of North America.  Keep in mind that even here on the Iceberg,
    we have really hot summers with high humidity, so you can just imagine
    what it is like in Orlando or Kansas or Vegas ( though Vegas should be
    dry), which has to have an affect on the players.  In Germany it seems
    it only rains, though I dont recall when i was young that it was this
    rainy in the summer?

    I guess you never lived in Bielefeld.


    Anyhow the point is that the COPA does the VAR better, they dont seem to
    give out Penals for every handball.  Yesterday, or maybe it was the day before, you had the English commentators saying how once VAR and the ref looks at it it will be a handball call.  Thankfully they were wrong and
    it was not, the ridiculousness of hand ball calls in Europa is going to
    see players purposely aiming the ball at the opponents arms just to get
    these cheap calls.  It was already happening.

    SO with some results already in, we are projecting Argentina to win the
    COPA 24.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 3 21:13:05 2024
    On 2024-07-03 12:12 a.m., Lléo wrote:
    On 02/07/2024 23:04, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Colombia 1 - 1 Brasil HT


    FT 1-1


    Costa Rica 2 - 0 Paraguay HT


    Paraguay pulled one back, FT 2-1 to Costa Rica. Patrick Sequeira pulled
    a strong candidate for save of the tournament to keep Paraguay from
    drawing level at 90+3'.


    AS it stands Colombia top the group and Brasil 2nd.

    Colombia is playing really well, better than Brasil in my opinion,
    they pass better and quicker and have probably had more scoring
    chances, their goalie might be a weak spot though.


    Agreed. At least they are the better coached unit. They deserved to win today, but couldn't put the game away.


    I have to say Vini JR annoys me with his constant bickering to the ref
    and crying for cards to be shown.  He already has a yellow card for a
    foul,


    A yellow card that will keep him out of the quarterfinal game against Uruguay, btw. Seems to be learning from Neymar?

    Neyamr is probably the most ball skilled player we have seen since ...
    Meissi? Maybe better? Vut yeah wasted talent.

    But do German consider a guy like bernd Shuster to be a wasted talent?
    I remeber him in Euro 80 and he was the best ting sonce sliced bread,
    but he never played for geramy again. And it is not like they needed
    hime , but whould they ahve been better with im? I am jus tgoion on a
    druynken Neyamar tangent, cus I mean he was probably the closest thint
    to Meiis we had?

    While I'm at it: what is it with the fans that chant "Olé" at the objectively wrong moments (eg, when their team is not winning, or early
    in the game)? It was puzzling enough when the Mexicans did it 13 minutes
    into the game against Ecuador (a tie, let's recall, served Ecuador, not Mexico). Now it was the Colombians. I understand they were playing
    better, but Brasil would not be eliminated by a draw.

    Plus, it would only take a goal by Brasil to (a) make them look silly
    and (b) make Colombia play Uruguay instead of Panama in the next round.

    Anyway, a bit of trivia: all group winning managers - Lionel Scaloni, Fernando Batista, Marcelo Bielsa and Nestor Lorenzo - are Argentinian. I believe this is the first time such a thing happens in Copa America.


    Best regards,

    Lléo

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 3 21:01:37 2024
    On 2024-07-03 3:13 p.m., MH wrote:
    On 2024-06-27 14:08, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-06-25 8:38 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Canada beats a South American team for the first time in 24 years!
    Not the most resounding win, Peru down to 10 men for the final 30
    minutes.

    It was very hot, so hot that a linesman passed out, apparently due to
    the heat, when I saw him down, I thought he had maybe been hit by
    something.  A Peruvian player head butted a CDN player but the
    Guatemalan ref and the VARobots did nothing, not even a yellow?

    Certainly not the most convincing win, but it is a win, Dont know if
    I would pick them to beat CHile, but it is possible.

    local boy Jonathan David with a nice composed finish gave Kanada the
    1-0 and it should have been smooth sailing, but the CDN keeper still
    had to make a couple of good saves towards the end of the match to
    keep it 1-0.

    Anyhow CONCACAF teams doin alright so far.


    Maybe the quality of football can be debated, I dont think it is that
    different from the EURO, even if they are playing in the heat and
    humidity of North America.  Keep in mind that even here on the
    Iceberg, we have really hot summers with high humidity, so you can
    just imagine what it is like in Orlando or Kansas or Vegas ( though
    Vegas should be dry), which has to have an affect on the players.  In
    Germany it seems it only rains, though I dont recall when i was young
    that it was this rainy in the summer?

    I guess you never lived in Bielefeld.


    Anyhow the point is that the COPA does the VAR better, they dont seem
    to give out Penals for every handball.  Yesterday, or maybe it was the
    day before, you had the English commentators saying how once VAR and
    the ref looks at it it will be a handball call.  Thankfully they were
    wrong and it was not, the ridiculousness of hand ball calls in Europa
    is going to see players purposely aiming the ball at the opponents
    arms just to get these cheap calls.  It was already happening.

    SO with some results already in, we are projecting Argentina to win
    the COPA 24.


    No, always more south, but it was it always more rainy? I am not
    denying that humans have changed the temps of the planet, but things
    like more rain is more new to me

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 6 21:53:43 2024


    No, always more south, but it was it always more rainy?  I am not
    denying that humans have changed the temps of the planet, but things
    like more rain is more new to me

    The Teutoburgerwald seemed to attract rain in an uncanny fashion, back
    in the 80s when we lived there. Summers were pretty darn rainy compared
    to what I was used to back in Canada (all of Winnipeg, Kentville NS, and Guelph). Even going to Belgium to visit the in-laws, it was less likely
    to be rainy than in Bielefeld.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 7 23:28:17 2024
    Based on the latest results and Messi game play, we are declaring
    Colombia Copa 24 champions.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 8 03:55:01 2024
    In article <v6fmcg$n6gm$[email protected]>,
    Binder Dundat <[email protected]> wrote:
    Based on the latest results and Messi game play, we are declaring
    Colombia Copa 24 champions.

    Columbia vs Uruguay

    and

    Canada vs Argentina.

    Columbia has Ospina

    and Canada could surprise.
    --
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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 14:34:06 2024
    Canada came so close to being the 3rd best team in South America, but
    no, they are just the 4th best team in South America. A lot of people
    in up here on the Iceberg ( which is 30C in the shade, I dont know how
    they are playing football in North America now) are getting down on
    Alphonso Davies, everyone is blaming him for the loss and saying he
    shouldnt be playing for the NT and what not. Even Mr Lily White was
    going on about how he has declined. I dont know, not ready to throw him
    under the bus yet.

    So anyhow a decent display by Canada, with a B team last night,
    sometimes when your B team is the same as your A team, it does not
    really matter. I am still going with Colombia to win tonight.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sun Jul 14 12:58:22 2024
    On 2024-07-14 12:34, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Canada came so close to being the 3rd best team in South America, but
    no, they are just the 4th best team in South America.  A lot of people
    in up here on the Iceberg ( which is 30C in the shade, I dont know how
    they are playing football in North America now) are getting down on
    Alphonso Davies, everyone is blaming him for the loss and saying he
    shouldnt be playing for the NT and what not.  Even Mr Lily White was
    going on about how he has declined.  I dont know, not ready to throw him under the bus yet.

    So anyhow a decent display by Canada, with a B team last night,
    sometimes when your B team is the same as your A team, it does not
    really matter.  I am still going with Colombia to win tonight.

    A decent performance, though the defending in the last 5 minutes was
    abysmal.

    Players like Ahmed and Choinière came in and did a good job. Koné was
    very good. De Fougerolles got a start and a fair number of minutes.

    Davies was below par the whole tournament. Whether this was because
    Marsh wanted him the restrain his attacking instincts and play a quite conservative game at left back, or because he is carry an injury, or
    because he is distracted by possible transfers etc. I don't know.

    On the whole I think Johnston, Cornelius, Bombito, Crepaud, Shaffelburg
    and Koné really enhanced their reputations and standing within the
    program during this tournament. The more established players who were instrumental during the qualifying cycle for the world cup were a bit
    (or a lot) off the pace (Davies, David, Larin, Eustaquio, Laryea).

    Not too many old guys in this group who may not be around for the WC
    (maybe Osorio and Larin, depending how they age), so the potential for
    further improvement is there.

    Losers from the tournament were Piette (did not play at all I think; was
    never up to the pace and is fairly old), K. Miller (really good in a 3
    man back line for Herdman, - either he is injured or Marsh does not like
    him), and players like Waterman and Hiebert who were not used (or used
    for only a few minutes if I missed something).

    4th place is a good result, but every game could easily have tipped
    against us and we could have come last in our group fairly easily. So I
    guess we can say we are competitive with most CONCACAF and CONMEBOL
    teams, but nowhere near approaching playing any of them (and certainly
    not Brazil and Argentina) with any confidence or expectation of
    controlling the game.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 19:59:18 2024
    Never a dull moment at the Copa (just dont fall in love at the Copa),
    unruly fan behaviour has set back kick off to 8 30 local. At least get
    Shakira to perform while people are waiting. Or maybe Shakira is the
    reason for the unruly fan behaviour?

    If you ask me, it is Messi, he is trying to throw the Colombians off
    their game, by delaying kick off. Honestly though it is probably a good
    thing, it means the temp at kick off will drop from 100 degrees to 98.

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 15 20:44:34 2024
    Quoting Mark in rec.sport.soccer:
    What's the minimum size for a football pitch in the rules of football? I
    was aware of complaints about the quality of the pitches; according to >Wikipedia there were also complaints about the size of the pitches. >Apparently some were 100x64 metres. Is that actually legal for an >international match?

    Quite sure that FIFA tightened this up to 105x68 several years ago.


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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 15 18:40:13 2024
    What's the minimum size for a football pitch in the rules of football? I
    was aware of complaints about the quality of the pitches; according to Wikipedia there were also complaints about the size of the pitches.
    Apparently some were 100x64 metres. Is that actually legal for an
    international match?

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 15 14:20:27 2024
    Apparently some were 100x64 metres. Is that actually legal for an
    international match?

    Quite sure that FIFA tightened this up to 105x68 several years ago.

    Internal matches soccer fields should have a length between 100 and 110m
    and a width between 64 and 75m.

    -- HASM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to HASM on Tue Jul 16 12:00:00 2024
    On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:20:27 +0000, HASM wrote:


    Apparently some were 100x64 metres. Is that actually legal for an
    international match?

    Quite sure that FIFA tightened this up to 105x68 several years ago.

    Internal matches soccer fields should have a length between 100 and 110m
    and a width between 64 and 75m.

    -- HASM

    So it's the absolute minimum but it is legal. That seems fair enough.
    I'm not sure why they're complaining then.

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 16 06:55:58 2024
    Apparently some were 100x64 metres. Is that actually legal

    should have a length between 100 and 110m and a width between 64 and 75m.

    So it's the absolute minimum but it is legal. That seems fair enough.
    I'm not sure why they're complaining then.

    Smaller fields favor the bus parking teams as they need a smaller bus:-)
    More seriously, it becomes much harder to play wider through the wings.

    In yards, the width is between 70 and 80, the metric numbers are an
    approximate official measurements.

    Anytime I walked on a properly marked field or watch a game on TV, I
    always look at the distance from the penalty kick area side lines to the
    hash marks on the goal line that helps the referees tell whether a
    defender is 10 yards away from the corner kick, to get a feel of the
    field's width.

    The corner kick quarter circle has a 1 yard radius, the hash mark is 10
    yards from the quarter circle, or 11 yards from the corner flag. The
    penalty area is 44 yards wide (8 + 2*6 + 2*12), thus adding that to the
    width marked by the corner kicks hash marks, gives 2*11+44 or 66 yards.

    That leaves 2 yards minimum between the hash marks and the penalty area,
    less than that and the game is not to international game standards.
    Nice fields are 110x80. When I referred on fields that approach the
    maximum size of 120x90, I knew I was going to be more tired than usual
    by the end of the game, and so would be the defenders.

    -- HASM

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 16 07:18:09 2024
    Anytime I walked on a properly marked field or watch a game on TV, I
    always look at the distance from the penalty kick area side lines to the
    hash marks on the goal line ... to get a feel of the field's width.

    Similarly for the field length, one should look at the distance from the
    center circle to the arc just outside of the penalty area.

    Center circle is 10 yards, the arc is 18+4 = 22 yards from the goal line, totaling 32. Thus on a field with minimum international standards, the
    distance between those two arcs is 18 yards, maximum 28 yards, ideally
    23, but those distances are harder to have a quick feel for.

    On TV this is usually easier to tell by the tilt induced by the grass
    mower's runs. If one sees three lanes covering the penalty area, 18
    yards, there will be a minimum of three lanes between the circles, but
    if the field length is not a multiple of 6, things don't line out
    nicely.

    However, if the middle mower run is split by the halfway line, and they
    are all approximately the same size, you'll have a field 102 yards long,
    and 17 mower runs.

    Near the end of my referee career, a few referees had watches with
    built-in GPS antennas, and the pre-game routine involved walking the
    periphery of the field, cutting in through the outer penalty area lines.

    After the game one would plot where one had been during the game to get
    a feel of how well one had done covering the width and length of the
    field, an important metric during assessments. And the field dimensions
    were a side effect of that pre-game walk.

    -- HASM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to HASM on Tue Jul 16 14:40:40 2024
    HASM <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Apparently some were 100x64 metres. Is that actually legal

    should have a length between 100 and 110m and a width between 64 and 75m.

    So it's the absolute minimum but it is legal. That seems fair enough.
    I'm not sure why they're complaining then.

    Smaller fields favor the bus parking teams as they need a smaller bus:-)
    More seriously, it becomes much harder to play wider through the wings.

    In yards, the width is between 70 and 80, the metric numbers are an approximate official measurements.

    Anytime I walked on a properly marked field or watch a game on TV, I
    always look at the distance from the penalty kick area side lines to the
    hash marks on the goal line that helps the referees tell whether a
    defender is 10 yards away from the corner kick, to get a feel of the
    field's width.

    Has anyone ever encountered similar hash-marks
    along the touch-line? According to the rules they’re
    optional there as well, but I struggle to remember if
    I’ve ever seen any.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    The corner kick quarter circle has a 1 yard radius, the hash mark is 10
    yards from the quarter circle, or 11 yards from the corner flag. The
    penalty area is 44 yards wide (8 + 2*6 + 2*12), thus adding that to the
    width marked by the corner kicks hash marks, gives 2*11+44 or 66 yards.

    That leaves 2 yards minimum between the hash marks and the penalty area,
    less than that and the game is not to international game standards.
    Nice fields are 110x80. When I referred on fields that approach the
    maximum size of 120x90, I knew I was going to be more tired than usual
    by the end of the game, and so would be the defenders.

    -- HASM



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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Jul 16 11:16:57 2024
    Werner Pichler <[email protected]d> writes:


    I always look at the distance from the penalty kick area side lines to the >> hash marks on the goal line

    Has anyone ever encountered similar hash-marks
    along the touch-line? According to the rules they’re
    optional there as well,

    From a "very scientific:-) search" of images of "soccer fields" on
    google, the hash marks on the goal line are almost always there, the
    ones along the touch line are missing a lot.

    -- HASM

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