• Euro 2024 Sophisticated Prediction Contest

    From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 12:57:13 2024
    Download spreadsheet here, send entries to [email protected] before kickoff of the first match:

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2024/06/05/euro-2024-sophisticated-prediction-contest/

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 11 21:28:14 2024
    Entry submitted!

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to anders t on Thu Jun 13 20:16:54 2024
    anders t wrote:

    Entry submitted!

    Entries so far:

    S01 Agnostic
    S02 Jesus Petry
    S03 KonakaLab
    S04 Futbolmetrix
    S05 SwissFootballData
    S06 Georg Haas
    S07 MH
    S08 Anders T
    S09 goalprojection
    S10 Hybrid Model
    S11 Bookmaker Consensus
    S12 Jesper
    S13 Julio Ibáñez
    S14 dopemodels.info
    S15 Luke Benz
    S16 Elo (by FM)
    S17 FIFA (by FM)
    S18 TransferMarkt (by FM)
    S19 kikijones2001

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sat Jun 15 22:25:10 2024
    Futbolmetrix wrote:

    anders t wrote:

    Entry submitted!

    We ended up with 31 entries. Go to link below to see the full list of participants and to download the master spreadsheet.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2024/06/15/euro-2024-sophcon-master-spreadsheet/

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Wed Jun 19 04:00:04 2024
    Futbolmetrix wrote:


    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2024/06/15/euro-2024-sophcon-master-spreadsheet/
    (I uploaded a slightly revised version of the master spreadsheet at the
    above).

    Standings after MD1:

    goalprojection -14.223
    Silver_aurora -14.608
    Jesus Petry -14.917
    kikijones2001 -14.919
    Bookmaker Consensus -15.007
    Anders T -15.124
    Agnostic -15.276
    Lléo -15.300
    Hybrid Model -15.464
    Futbolmetrix -15.793
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -16.015
    FoG -16.044
    CollectiveConsciousness -16.125
    Zander -16.145
    Stephen K -16.262
    MH -16.342
    FIFA (by FM) -16.396
    Luke Benz -16.433
    Paul Steele -16.447
    Devlin Sullivan -16.658
    AI-lbania -17.050
    Georg Haas -17.388
    LukaszBoz -17.423
    Jesper -18.520
    SwissFootballData -18.595
    Elo (by FM) -18.618
    Werner Pichler -18.650
    RED -18.658
    dopemodels.info -19.934
    KonakaLab -20.038
    Julio Ibáñez -89.151


    Only six predictions better than Agnostic so far.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Jesper Lauridsen on Wed Jun 26 21:36:11 2024
    Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

    That goalprojection is looking really tough.

    Yes, he holds on to the lead despite Georgia's shock qualification. Nice showing by MH in 3rd place overall.

    goalprojection -11.866
    Hybrid Model -12.147
    MH -12.324
    Bookmaker Consensus -12.541
    Luke Benz -12.677
    Georg Haas -12.715
    Zander -12.716
    Devlin Sullivan -12.800
    Futbolmetrix -12.805
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -12.928
    Stephen K -12.937
    FoG -12.950
    CollectiveConsciousness -13.105
    Paul Steele -13.143
    Silver_aurora -13.402
    Jesus Petry -13.498
    FIFA (by FM) -13.513
    kikijones2001 -13.621
    AI-lbania -13.661
    Anders T -13.738
    RED -13.847
    LukaszBoz -13.884
    Lléo -13.987
    SwissFootballData -14.138
    Elo (by FM) -14.208
    dopemodels.info -14.428
    KonakaLab -14.461
    Werner Pichler -14.547
    Julio Ibáñez -14.582
    Agnostic -15.276
    Jesper -17.217



    Aggie going down.

    Agnostic -15.276
    Jesper -17.217

    Hmmm...

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Wed Jul 3 16:18:36 2024
    Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

    That goalprojection is looking really tough.

    Yes, he holds on to the lead despite Georgia's shock qualification. Nice showing by MH in 3rd place overall.


    Standings after the round of 16:

    goalprojection -20.276
    Hybrid Model -20.302
    MH -20.534
    Julio Ibáñez -20.605
    Futbolmetrix -20.805
    Zander -21.038
    Bookmaker Consensus -21.057
    Anders T -21.140
    Stephen K -21.236
    Paul Steele -21.276
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -21.444
    Lléo -21.511
    Georg Haas -21.524
    Luke Benz -21.527
    CollectiveConsciousness -21.536
    FoG -21.678
    Devlin Sullivan -21.753
    Jesus Petry -22.206
    Werner Pichler -22.299
    RED -22.329
    FIFA (by FM) -22.662
    kikijones2001 -22.757
    AI-lbania -22.824
    Silver_aurora -23.083
    KonakaLab -23.212
    SwissFootballData -23.319
    Elo (by FM) -23.332
    dopemodels.info -23.414
    LukaszBoz -23.474
    Jesper -26.260
    Agnostic -26.367


    Four human entries in the top 10 (MH, Futbolmetrix, Julio Ibanez and
    Anders), but goalprojection holds on to first place.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 7 12:12:15 2024
    On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:18:36 (UTC), Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Standings after the QFs:

    Anders T -24.392
    MH -24.982
    Futbolmetrix -25.044
    Hybrid Model -25.072
    goalprojection -25.234
    Julio Ibáñez -25.330
    Paul Steele -25.974
    Zander -25.999
    Bookmaker Consensus -26.046
    Stephen K -26.061
    Luke Benz -26.155
    Werner Pichler -26.169
    CollectiveConsciousness -26.183
    FoG -26.335
    Georg Haas -26.377
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -26.425
    Lléo -26.569
    RED -26.672
    Devlin Sullivan -26.747
    kikijones2001 -26.992
    AI-lbania -27.098
    Jesus Petry -27.338
    FIFA (by FM) -27.430
    KonakaLab -27.698
    Elo (by FM) -27.941
    SwissFootballData -28.176
    dopemodels.info -28.222
    LukaszBoz -28.437
    Silver_aurora -28.568
    Jesper -31.310
    Agnostic -31.912

    AI has nothing on us humans!

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sun Jul 7 12:19:51 2024
    Futbolmetrix <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:18:36 (UTC), Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Standings after the QFs:

    Anders T -24.392
    MH -24.982
    Futbolmetrix -25.044
    Hybrid Model -25.072
    goalprojection -25.234
    Julio Ibáñez -25.330
    Paul Steele -25.974
    Zander -25.999
    Bookmaker Consensus -26.046
    Stephen K -26.061
    Luke Benz -26.155
    Werner Pichler -26.169
    CollectiveConsciousness -26.183
    FoG -26.335
    Georg Haas -26.377
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -26.425
    Lléo -26.569
    RED -26.672
    Devlin Sullivan -26.747
    kikijones2001 -26.992
    AI-lbania -27.098
    Jesus Petry -27.338
    FIFA (by FM) -27.430
    KonakaLab -27.698
    Elo (by FM) -27.941
    SwissFootballData -28.176
    dopemodels.info -28.222
    LukaszBoz -28.437
    Silver_aurora -28.568
    Jesper -31.310
    Agnostic -31.912

    AI has nothing on us humans!

    Humans do better when there are no big upsets,
    I guess?

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Sun Jul 7 14:05:02 2024
    On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 12:19:51 (UTC), Werner Pichler wrote:


    Humans do better when there are no big upsets,

    Yes, I think that's correct. Humans understand that to win the SophCon
    you have to go a bit stronger on the outcomes that you think are more
    likely to happen (or, they just struggle to play around with very small probabilities...)

    Anyway, we will have a human winner. MH takes it if we have a France-Netherlands final (whatever the outcome). Any other outcome, it's Anders.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Thu Jul 11 11:11:47 2024
    On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 12:12:15 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:18:36 (UTC), Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Standings after the QFs:


    Standings after the semifinals:

    Anders T -26.992
    Hybrid Model -27.837
    Futbolmetrix -27.897
    goalprojection -27.948
    Julio Ibáñez -28.153
    MH -28.309
    Zander -28.553
    Luke Benz -28.554
    Bookmaker Consensus -28.598
    Paul Steele -28.736
    Stephen K -28.759
    Werner Pichler -28.792
    Georg Haas -28.975
    CollectiveConsciousness -28.977
    FoG -29.047
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -29.083
    Devlin Sullivan -29.460
    RED -29.655
    Lléo -29.681
    kikijones2001 -29.811
    Jesus Petry -30.128
    AI-lbania -30.362
    FIFA (by FM) -30.407
    KonakaLab -30.603
    Elo (by FM) -30.897
    dopemodels.info -31.157
    Silver_aurora -31.181
    LukaszBoz -31.338
    SwissFootballData -31.368
    Jesper -34.082
    Agnostic -34.684


    Anders takes the crown, congrats!
    MH wins the Brier score ranking, Hybrid Model wins the RPS ranking

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 13 08:29:10 2024
    Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 12:12:15 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:18:36 (UTC), Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Standings after the QFs:


    Standings after the semifinals:

    Anders T -26.992
    Hybrid Model -27.837
    Futbolmetrix -27.897
    goalprojection -27.948
    Julio Ib��ez -28.153
    MH -28.309
    Zander -28.553
    Luke Benz -28.554
    Bookmaker Consensus -28.598
    Paul Steele -28.736
    Stephen K -28.759
    Werner Pichler -28.792
    Georg Haas -28.975
    CollectiveConsciousness -28.977
    FoG -29.047
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -29.083
    Devlin Sullivan -29.460
    RED -29.655
    Ll�o -29.681
    kikijones2001 -29.811
    Jesus Petry -30.128
    AI-lbania -30.362
    FIFA (by FM) -30.407
    KonakaLab -30.603
    Elo (by FM) -30.897
    dopemodels.info -31.157
    Silver_aurora -31.181
    LukaszBoz -31.338
    SwissFootballData -31.368
    Jesper -34.082
    Agnostic -34.684


    Anders takes the crown, congrats!
    MH wins the Brier score ranking, Hybrid Model wins the RPS ranking

    I am deeply humbled.

    Thank all for playing, though. ;-)


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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Mon Jul 15 08:41:58 2024
    On 6/5/2024 8:57 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Download spreadsheet here, send entries to [email protected] before kickoff of the first match:


    Final standings:

    Anders T -28.378
    Futbolmetrix -29.297
    goalprojection -29.323
    Hybrid Model -29.344
    Julio Ibáñez -29.523
    MH -29.695
    Luke Benz -30.054
    Zander -30.172
    Werner Pichler -30.179
    Paul Steele -30.250
    Bookmaker Consensus -30.262
    Stephen K -30.294
    CollectiveConsciousness -30.408
    Georg Haas -30.473
    FoG -30.522
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -30.685
    RED -30.894
    Devlin Sullivan -30.915
    Lléo -31.067
    kikijones2001 -31.282
    Jesus Petry -31.514
    KonakaLab -31.876
    FIFA (by FM) -31.977
    AI-lbania -32.015
    Elo (by FM) -32.199
    SwissFootballData -32.492
    dopemodels.info -32.503
    Silver_aurora -32.536
    LukaszBoz -32.681
    Jesper -35.468
    Agnostic -36.071

    Congrats, Anders!


    Brier score final standings:
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    MH 15.501
    goalprojection 15.770
    Anders T 15.901
    Futbolmetrix 16.113
    Hybrid Model 16.138
    Bookmaker Consensus 16.161
    Paul Steele 16.328
    Jesus Petry 16.349
    Zander 16.400
    Georg Haas 16.437
    Lléo 16.477
    Stephen K 16.481
    CollectiveConsciousness 16.486
    TransferMarkt (by FM) 16.512
    Luke Benz 16.540
    Devlin Sullivan 16.554
    FoG 16.622
    Silver_aurora 16.674
    LukaszBoz 16.990
    FIFA (by FM) 17.083
    KonakaLab 17.140
    Elo (by FM) 17.156
    kikijones2001 17.166
    Julio Ibáñez 17.237
    RED 17.257
    dopemodels.info 17.383
    Werner Pichler 17.425
    AI-lbania 17.431
    Agnostic 17.750
    SwissFootballData 17.759
    Jesper 19.407


    Ranked Probability Scoring final standings -------------------------------------------
    Hybrid Model 11.347
    goalprojection 11.481
    Werner Pichler 11.524
    Anders T 11.548
    Bookmaker Consensus 11.895
    Futbolmetrix 11.899
    Paul Steele 11.941
    Zander 11.968
    Luke Benz 12.049
    kikijones2001 12.086
    Stephen K 12.110
    FoG 12.137
    TransferMarkt (by FM) 12.142
    CollectiveConsciousness 12.193
    Julio Ibáñez 12.284
    Georg Haas 12.334
    MH 12.377
    RED 12.579
    Devlin Sullivan 12.664
    Lléo 12.884
    KonakaLab 12.992
    AI-lbania 12.995
    Jesus Petry 13.020
    FIFA (by FM) 13.148
    SwissFootballData 13.348
    Elo (by FM) 13.442
    dopemodels.info 13.471
    Silver_aurora 13.674
    LukaszBoz 13.813
    Jesper 14.172
    Agnostic 16.792


    More comments here: https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2024/07/15/euro2024-sophcon-final-standings/

    Thanks to all for participating!

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 15 16:51:47 2024
    Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:
    On 6/5/2024 8:57 AM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Download spreadsheet here, send entries to [email protected] before
    kickoff of the first match:


    Final standings:

    Anders T -28.378
    Futbolmetrix -29.297
    goalprojection -29.323
    Hybrid Model -29.344
    Julio Ib��ez -29.523
    MH -29.695
    Luke Benz -30.054
    Zander -30.172
    Werner Pichler -30.179
    Paul Steele -30.250
    Bookmaker Consensus -30.262
    Stephen K -30.294
    CollectiveConsciousness -30.408
    Georg Haas -30.473
    FoG -30.522
    TransferMarkt (by FM) -30.685
    RED -30.894
    Devlin Sullivan -30.915
    Ll�o -31.067
    kikijones2001 -31.282
    Jesus Petry -31.514
    KonakaLab -31.876
    FIFA (by FM) -31.977
    AI-lbania -32.015
    Elo (by FM) -32.199
    SwissFootballData -32.492
    dopemodels.info -32.503
    Silver_aurora -32.536
    LukaszBoz -32.681
    Jesper -35.468
    Agnostic -36.071

    Congrats, Anders!

    Thank you. Thank very much!


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